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Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

Postby Valpurgis » 26 Nov 2018, 00:16

anotherscott wrote:Licensing requires that the other company be willing to license something... which may not be so likely if doing so will cut into their own sales, or they may only do it at significant cost. And as far as internal development, it's not a simple matter of "resources," you don't simply spend more money to get something better, because the path to "something better" is not necessarily known.

That’s exactly my point, they should source for help to find this path. Clavia has been making good profits for years compared to at least a couple of the mentioned options which have been struggling to develop a business for quite a long time. I am not the only struggling to like the B3 in my Nords, would be glad to drop the Vent, Leslie or consider to add a Gemini.
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Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

Postby PScooter63 » 26 Nov 2018, 00:18

Asina, this has been discussed extensively in other threads... but what version of the S3 OS are you on?
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Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

Postby kbmatson » 26 Nov 2018, 00:19

Asina wrote:The same customization options do not have NE 5, but sounds much better than what we have on NS3.
 

Can you post sample showing the difference between the two?
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Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

Postby anotherscott » 26 Nov 2018, 02:02

Valpurgis wrote:That’s exactly my point, they should source for help to find this path.

But how do you know you'll get the result you're after, before it exists? I mean, in a sense, you could say that we only know of something like 3 people in the world who have figured out how to do a great rotary emulation, and they already all have jobs. ;-)
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Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

Postby Valpurgis » 26 Nov 2018, 02:50

And fortunately one of them made the Ventilator which I can try to install inside the NS3C pretending Clavia finally also figured it out. Maybe gaffa is easier :keyboard2:
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Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

Postby Quai34 » 26 Nov 2018, 03:59

I have a Stage 2 and was happy with the B3 emulation. I bought a C2 and updated it to C2D immediately (just an OS upgrade....), I was playing it with the NOT "close miking" Leslie and it was great. I had the idea to try the "Close Miking" option in the Forum and yes, I kept it, it sounds different, I'm not sure it's really better or closer to the real B3....I tried few B3 in my life but always thought that it was my lack of knowledge on HOW TO PLAY IT rather than the instrument by itself that was the culprit for not sounding very good. I even haven't tried yet the option 60/40 or 40/60, the opinion on which one is better depends on each player's taste....And skills....
At the end, I think people are really making a lot of noise for something that is less important than the skills you have when you play an Hammond clone....Why on ALL the video of Joey Di Francesco, weather he is playing an Hammond or a Nord or anything else, it sounds awesome....For me at least, spend more time improving your technique on the B3 and this will make a much bigger difference than all the little ones that are between the different clones on the market...Or between the monstrous numbers of real old B3 that are everywhere....
And if you really don't like the Nord B3, well, buy another brand, there is room for every personal taste and room for more manufacturers in the market nowadays, but stop always complaining on the same issue, that would make sense if Nord would be the only option but that's not the case anymore....
On this video, the B3 sounds really different but I like them all, they all sound crazy good!!!! but we have 4 awesome players, well, I knew 3 of them anyway....I'm sure you do that with the same players and 4 different clones, you will all forget about the differences in sound but will crave to play like these guys....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEST4CJlJkg
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Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

Postby kbmatson » 26 Nov 2018, 04:43

Seems like everybody is still saying that this or that sounds better than the ns3 whether it be an electro or the previous stage or whatever. I still would like to ask, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, for somebody to post the comparison between the ns3 that they don't like and one of the other Nords that they think sounds better. Of course this should be done with care to make sure the exact same settings are used for comparison.
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Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

Postby Valpurgis » 26 Nov 2018, 14:44

Quai34 wrote:At the end, I think people are really making a lot of noise for something that is less important than the skills you have when you play an Hammond clone....Why on ALL the video of Joey Di Francesco, weather he is playing an Hammond or a Nord or anything else, it sounds awesome....For me at least, spend more time improving your technique on the B3 and this will make a much bigger difference than all the little ones that are between the different clones on the market...Or between the monstrous numbers of real old B3 that are everywhere....
And if you really don't like the Nord B3, well, buy another brand, there is room for every personal taste and room for more manufacturers in the market nowadays, but stop always complaining on the same issue, that would make sense if Nord would be the only option but that's not the case anymore....

Generally I agree that it would be better to concentrate on playing and training than «always complain». And yes I could buy another brand, but that’s why I actually am hoping for improvements to the Stage. The NS3C does all I want: Everything is there in the song list and I put it on top of any 88 key midi controller to have my perfect dual keyboard setup. The top clones as well a B3/L122 are in my studio and are the reason I am «always complaining». And at 60 the motivation for improving my skills and be playing like JDF is grounded. But I will still hope for improvements from Nord, but no more comments here :silent:
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Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

Postby Jo Osantos1 » 26 Nov 2018, 21:07

Quai34 wrote:I have a Stage 2 and was happy with the B3 emulation. I bought a C2 and updated it to C2D immediately (just an OS upgrade....), I was playing it with the NOT "close miking" Leslie and it was great. I had the idea to try the "Close Miking" option in the Forum and yes, I kept it, it sounds different, I'm not sure it's really better or closer to the real B3....I tried few B3 in my life but always thought that it was my lack of knowledge on HOW TO PLAY IT rather than the instrument by itself that was the culprit for not sounding very good. I even haven't tried yet the option 60/40 or 40/60, the opinion on which one is better depends on each player's taste....And skills....
At the end, I think people are really making a lot of noise for something that is less important than the skills you have when you play an Hammond clone....Why on ALL the video of Joey Di Francesco, weather he is playing an Hammond or a Nord or anything else, it sounds awesome....For me at least, spend more time improving your technique on the B3 and this will make a much bigger difference than all the little ones that are between the different clones on the market...Or between the monstrous numbers of real old B3 that are everywhere....
And if you really don't like the Nord B3, well, buy another brand, there is room for every personal taste and room for more manufacturers in the market nowadays, but stop always complaining on the same issue, that would make sense if Nord would be the only option but that's not the case anymore....
On this video, the B3 sounds really different but I like them all, they all sound crazy good!!!! but we have 4 awesome players, well, I knew 3 of them anyway....I'm sure you do that with the same players and 4 different clones, you will all forget about the differences in sound but will crave to play like these guys....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEST4CJlJkg


Man, have you read the first comment on this Post? It's my post by the way.
I am comparing the Hammond sound of Nord Electro 4D vs Stage 3, and yes i can compare them both side by side if you want. I will record it with the same B3 settings in order to give you some examples of what i was talking about! I will play exactly the same thing on booth records in order to give you the exact same skill...mine.

Don't worry, i am glad with my NS3 Compact and i will keep playing with it, because i love it!
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Re: Nord Stage 3 - hammond B3 Sound

Postby kbmatson » 26 Nov 2018, 21:10

Jo Osantos1 wrote: yes i can compare them both side by side if you want. I will record it it the same B3 settings in order to give you some examples of what i was talking about! I will play exactly the same thing on booth records in order to give you the exact same skill.


Thanks - will look forward to hearing this.
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