anotherscott wrote:Quai34 wrote:On a real B3, the Reverb is before?
A real B3 does not have reverb, though some other Hammond models did. Also, some Leslie models had reverb. If you are trying to recreate the sound of a Hammond or a Leslie that has a spring reverb unit in it, your reverb needs to be before the rotary effect. But that is not an especially common Hammond/Leslie sound, since most Hammonds and Leslies don't have reverbs.
While it it true that very few Leslies didn't have reverb, I would actullay say that most Hammonds DO have it - ok the B3 and C3, and a few more models don't, but basically all consoles Hammonds with built-in speakers:
L-100
M-100
M-3
E-100
A-100
H-110
and others, have reverb built-in. In many of these models the reverb channel has it's own amplifier and a small speaker. Like in the 1965 E-112 that I have, there's a 15-inch speaker for the organ, and a 8-inch for the reverb. Then it is more or less common practice when you install a Leslie output in these organs, that you sum the main channel w the reverb channel, to have them both go into the Leslie.
analogika wrote:cgrafx wrote:Actually Leslie models with Reverb in them had a separate reverb amp and speaker and was not routed through the rotating baffles. I believe all the "R" models like 122R had reverb effectively after the Leslie.
Hammond organs with internal Reverb on the other hand, would have added reverb to the signal chain going to the Leslie and that would put it pre-leslie.
The 122R does not have any extra speakers. It merely has circuitry that allows installation of a spring reverb into the case. It is still routed to the regular rotor and horn assemblies.
Hmm, cgrafx might be thinking of the Leslie 710. It had wooden cabinet like a 122, but transistor instead of tube amp, and it also had a pair of straight speakers on each side, for reverbs and other sounds - the 9-pin Leslie standard let's you send two audio signals into the Leslie, one into the "Rotary channel" and the other into the "Straight" channel. So if your organ had a 9-pin output support this dual channel configuration, it very well could have the reverb into it's own speakers in the 710.
http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/Leslie710
https://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/ ... 785848.jpg
brane wrote:analogika wrote:The default on any classic Hammond is to have the reverb routed through the Leslie.
I LIKE the reverb routed through the Leslie - must for Jon Lord & K. Emerson crazy effects
Me too! It was a welcomed addition for me. It's so much easier to put a reverb after the Nord, than put a reverb before the rotary, which would require an external Leslie sim. I used to run my Stage 2 through both an external reverb and a Neo Ventilator Leslie simulator to achive the sound I wanted. Now with v1.32 I think the Hammond/Leslie sim in the Stage 3 sounds good enough on its own, so I don't think it's worth the hassle of bringing an external simulator anymore. I might use my TC Hall Of Fame reverb pedal now and then though.