Nord Stage 2: half-pedalling

[iaorana]

For NS2 Users who miss a Triple Pedal:

The Korg DS-1H half-pedalling feature works for the NS2 Sustain input in Triple Pedal mode (for library pianos that support half-pedalling of course!). Other continuous encoded sustain pedals could work too - to be checked ;-)

Alain

[Guest]

This is nice! While the triple pedal is great, it is a bit bulky for when "on the road", so this option is great! And pedal noise also works?? Can't wait to get my NS2 now!
Link: http://www.korg.com/DS1H

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[TheNordCrew]

Hi

I am sorry but this pedal _will not_ create the same results as the Nord Triple Pedal, you will not have the velocity control over the actual pedal noise. Sure, you may be able to use it as a sustain pedal, but not with the same control of the pedal noise functionality which may not be obvious if you just test this quickly. The same goes for any other continuous sustain pedal that we are aware of on the market.

[Johannes]

I see, too bad, but good to know! But are there any plans to release a more "portable" pedal with the additional functionalities, in particular for the NS2 Compact?

[iaorana]

I am sorry but this pedal _will not_ create the same results as the Nord Triple Pedal, you will not have the velocity control over the actual pedal noise. Sure, you may be able to use it as a sustain pedal, but not with the same control of the pedal noise functionality which may not be obvious if you just test this quickly.

You are right: the resulting pedal noise sounds too loud, even at the minimum -6 dB adjustment - personally, I hate this pseudo "effect", which is in fact a "defect" of real pianos, isn't it ? ;-)

But are there any plans to release a more "portable" pedal with the additional functionalities, in particular for the NS2 Compact?

Very good request! ;-)

[Hanon_CTS]

For NS2 Users who miss a Triple Pedal:

The Korg DS-1H half-pedalling feature works for the NS2 Sustain input in Triple Pedal mode (for library pianos that support half-pedalling of course!). Other continuous encoded sustain pedals could work too - to be checked ;-)

Alain

Hello Alain,
I'm not usually one that bashes products, but for what it's worth, there have been numerous complaints and returns of the Korg DS-1H pedal due to quality control issues. I have one of these pedals and have never been able to get it to work consistently, and properly with my Korg M3 "an instrument that's designed to use it". There are at least 6 similar complaints over at the kong forums.

I wouldn't recommend that Nord users try to use the Korg pedal as it frequently doesn't even work with Korg instruments.

Just my 2 centavos worth.

Cheers, Hanon

[Cbas]

+1 request on the single Nord sustain pedal with half-pedalling and pedal-noise. The triple pedal is just too big/bulky to drag around, and I would not use the other 2 pedals much anyway when gigging.
It would be awesome if Clavia would make this.

[DrNeurus]

Hello all!

I am still waiting for my first Nord (it's another history...) so I cannot test with an actual Nord. However, I own an old Yamaha P-80, and I did an experiment. I connected the EV-5 pedal (that I bought for my future NS as control pedal) into the Yamaha's sustain pedal. And I found something incredible: this keybord has half pedalling!!

A normal sustain pedal is a simple on-off switch. But the EV-5 works as as voltage divider, or a variable resistor between tip and sleeve. All these are passive devices (no batteries or power)

The EV-5 has a small knob at the side. Setting this knob at 0, the resistance from tip to sleeve ranges from 0 to 10K ohm. Setting the knob at level 10, the resistance ranges from 0 to 50K.
I found that setting the knob between 3 and 4, it works as sustain at my Yamaha, and if you press the pedal slowly, the sound changes as if you could move the dampeners softly to the strings.

Perhaps for the Nord the value of the knob is different until making the control pedal work as a sustain or half pedalling, but maybe someone lucky enough to have a NS at home can test...

The control pedal is not very comfortable as a sustain pedal, first because the pivot is in the middle instead of the back, and also because it lacks the "spring" effect. But may be interesting for some special case or to modify a pedal and make it half-pedallling.

[whitenoise]

It's pretty disappointing that half-pedallling feature doesn't work with a single pedal. Many other manufactures offer such solution to the users but not Clavia. I hope Clavia could make it work with Roland and Yamaha pedals designed for that.

[iaorana]

I'm not usually one that bashes products, but for what it's worth, there have been numerous complaints and returns of the Korg DS-1H pedal due to quality control issues. I have one of these pedals and have never been able to get it to work consistently, and properly with my Korg M3 "an instrument that's designed to use it". There are at least 6 similar complaints over at the kong forums.

I wouldn't recommend that Nord users try to use the Korg pedal as it frequently doesn't even work with Korg instruments.

OK, Hanon - and sorry, folks, for having "promoted" such a questionable product :-(

However, a hint for those who already own this pedal and suffer ranging (dynamic) problems: to a certain extent, you can shift its range by tightening/loosening a screw that bends the steel bracket which holds the potentiometer...