Live mode Stage 4 - don't really get the concept

[ZeroZero]

I have read the manual. There are no tutorials on Live mode in the tube. Brief mentions or Stage 3 tutorials.

This is what I understand.

Live modes are programs where any tweak is automatically saved

There are eight of them pres Live Mode a Program number to get to one.

But why? Why is everyone so piped up by them?

I don't see their point (though I am obviously wrong).

What use are they? You can hit a program button and save your program after a tweak or you can just play and lose it next time. What's the big deal about live mode?

What would be a great example of using Live Modes?

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[LeftyBass68]

How I build a program? In live mode where I tweak it with the intention of eventually being happy enough to actually store it!
Enough live scenes/locations there to build templates to get me going.Layers,splits,etc. that reside in the boot up memory.
This Stage3 is in live mode at least 50% of the time. Once the operation was second nature, coming over from previous Stage models,
I found the live function most useful.

[analogika]

What use are they? You can hit a program button and save your program after a tweak or you can just play and lose it next time. What's the big deal about live mode?

Hint: It's in the name. If you want to tweak while switching between different sounds and keep continuity while playing live, then Live Mode is it.

Otherwise, you tweak and fit stuff to sound just right in a certain setting, and switching to the next preset and back loses it all.

[ZeroZero]

What use are they? You can hit a program button and save your program after a tweak or you can just play and lose it next time. What's the big deal about live mode?

Hint: It's in the name. If you want to tweak while switching between different sounds and keep continuity while playing live, then Live Mode is it.

Otherwise, you tweak and fit stuff to sound just right in a certain setting, and switching to the next preset and back loses it all.

But to do this your sound has to be loaded into Live Mode first? This seems to defeat the purpose as you have to preplan.

[ajstan]

My use case for Live Mode is to have bread and butter sounds quickly available at the press of a button or two without having to scroll through Programs or Songs to find them, and then I can immediately go back to right where I was in my Song Setlist for the evening:

Live 1: Panel A - Grand AP, Panel B - Upright AP
Live 2: Panel A - EP, Panel B - Wurli
Live 3: Panel A - Electric Grand, Panel B - Wurli w/Effects
Live 4: Panel A - Organ 1 (2 Presets), Panel B - Organ 2 (2 Presets)
Live 5: Panel A - Sound Effects, Panel B - Piano/Strings

[ZeroZero]

My use case for Live Mode is to have bread and butter sounds quickly available at the press of a button or two without having to scroll through Programs or Songs to find them, and then I can immediately go back to right where I was in my Song Setlist for the evening:

Live 1: Panel A - Grand AP, Panel B - Upright AP
Live 2: Panel A - EP, Panel B - Wurli
Live 3: Panel A - Electric Grand, Panel B - Wurli w/Effects
Live 4: Panel A - Organ 1 (2 Presets), Panel B - Organ 2 (2 Presets)
Live 5: Panel A - Sound Effects, Panel B - Piano/Strings

Why not do this with programs? If you use live mode this way, you can lose a favourite sound because you tweaked it and forgot?

I still don’t really see the point..I must be missing something.

[jonilikeskeys]

Hey ZeroZero,

I feel a bit like you - I don't use Live Mode and I also have my basic sounds available right at the beginning of my programs.
Basically the only thing to know about these programs is, that they continuously save themselves. No continuous saving is necessary.

Knowing that, you can use them in a live setting to create multiple sounds, change them, switch between them without always going to the default (originally saved) value.
But also using it as a "sound creating hub" as LeftyBass68 is doing it, is clever. Because when you are in sound creation process, sometimes you accidentally step to the previous or next program then you progress is lost. With live mode that won't happen!

So.. just leave them or find yourself a purpose for them Both is fine

[Spider]

Zerozero, you're not alone. I literally never used it. Never understood exactly what the purpose is, except for one thing: the name is totally misleading, because the one sure thing is that it's NOT for playing live!

I think the best guess is Leftybass68's: I can see some usefulness when building programs, to avoid having to save every few seconds, or avoid accidentally losing some useful tweak if you forget to save. But I'm usually very methodical when creating my programs so this almost never happened to me...I guess I'm just not the target user for this kind of feature.

[Bjosko]

Well, I do not use it either, but perhaps I should.
Most at rehearsal, I use to tweak my programs on the fly, but also live.
Starting out with a program from start, then I might add or change a synth, change the effect on the synth, tweak the EQ, add morphing to something and so on. At the end, I might have a lot better program for that particular song then what I had from start. So now it can “live” on that place, or be saved as a new program. Instead, what I have done sometimes, “this was great, let me save this on the same spot that I had the original program” ….
Then a few songs later, I remember that I should use the same program that I now had tweaked to something completely different.

Thats the beauty of the Nord, it is so easy to tweak on the fly, and there are more than one way to skin the cat.

[Spider]

My use case for Live Mode is to have bread and butter sounds quickly available at the press of a button or two without having to scroll through Programs or Songs to find them, and then I can immediately go back to right where I was in my Song Setlist for the evening:

Live 1: Panel A - Grand AP, Panel B - Upright AP
Live 2: Panel A - EP, Panel B - Wurli
Live 3: Panel A - Electric Grand, Panel B - Wurli w/Effects
Live 4: Panel A - Organ 1 (2 Presets), Panel B - Organ 2 (2 Presets)
Live 5: Panel A - Sound Effects, Panel B - Piano/Strings

Why not do this with programs? If you use live mode this way, you can lose a favourite sound because you tweaked it and forgot?

I still don’t really see the point..I must be missing something.

I use the Live buffers more or less in the same way as ajstan.

To your question, you can keep a copy of the Live buffers in some Programs (that's how I do it), in this way the Program holds the "original" patch and the Live is the "current" that (as analogika explained) you can tweak while playing (Live) without worrying to save it at every change; this is its main purpose; then at some point you may also decide you like the (current) Live better and update its related Program