Nord User Forum

[M1tsos]

Well. The sound of those high notes will remain affected by the event of having interacted with the rest of the undamped strings for a certain time, but as done by 1.62 it seems extremely overdone. Maybe the truth is somewhere in between, but probably well nearer to 1.54 I would say

My problem isnt that firmware sustain pedal sound decay time.. my bigger problem is that when i repeat notes they lose the volume and i need to press harder to get same volume but still doesnt come same like the first note and also they lose their brightness…

I am waiting a nee kawai mp11se again in the next 2 weeks.. so i will try midi it and check more about it.. because i dont think i am so wrong about it.. i believe something is wrong with my grand..

[FZiegler]

I already expressed my believe that those quickly repeated notes may well sound softer to imitate a real piano. Considering a repeated note played on a mechanic with double escapement will always have a shorter way to accelerate if played from the second escapement. In any case, your sample didn't sound odd to me.

I may be wrong, though.

[maxpiano]

I already expressed my believe that those quickly repeated notes may well sound softer to imitate a real piano. Considering a repeated note played on a mechanic with double escapement will always have a shorter way to accelerate if played from the second escapement. In any case, your sample didn't sound odd to me.

I may be wrong, though.

If we consider the presence of the 3rd contact, on keybeds such as the one used on the NG, your theory may be correct, i.e. if the key is not fully released, between each repetition, only the 2 lowest contact are used and (as I have seen on other 3 contacts digital pianos keybeds e.g. the Kawai VPC1) normally this generates lower velocities, probably to emulate the behaviour you described,

[M1tsos]

I already expressed my believe that those quickly repeated notes may well sound softer to imitate a real piano. Considering a repeated note played on a mechanic with double escapement will always have a shorter way to accelerate if played from the second escapement. In any case, your sample didn't sound odd to me.

I may be wrong, though.

If we consider the presence of the 3rd contact, on keybeds such as the one used on the NG, your theory may be correct, i.e. if the key is not fully released between each repetition only the 2 lowest contact are used and (as I have seen on other 3 contacts digital pianos keybeds e.g. the Kawai VPC1) normally this generates lower velocities, probably to emulate the behaviour you described,

I understand what you both say.. my problem is that i dont remember my previous nord grand behave this way… so.. or i am evolving very fast and i discover things fast or the instrument i have has some issues.. or maybe both?? In 2 weeks a kawai mp11se will arrive i will test them again before i sent back my nord grand to thomann and probably from thomann to clavia for a check or repair if needed

[maxpiano]

Let us know about your test, brw but have you also tried already to downgrade the NG firmware (as suggested by ziozeus) too?

[M1tsos]

Let us know about your test, brw but have you also tried already to downgrade the NG firmware (as suggested by ziozeus) too?

What brw means?? Havent you seen the 2 videos?? I change firmwares from 1.62 to 1.54 and back to 1.62 many times..

So you mean to downgrade more before 1.54 ???

[maxpiano]

Let us know about your test, brw but have you also tried already to downgrade the NG firmware (as suggested by ziozeus) too?

What brw means?? Havent you seen the 2 videos?? I change firmwares from 1.62 to 1.54 and back to 1.62 many times..

So you mean to downgrade more before 1.54 ???

It was a typo (should have been "btw" = by the way) so OK, you already tried 1.54 and get the same behaviour, regarding repetitions, correct?

[M1tsos]

Let us know about your test, brw but have you also tried already to downgrade the NG firmware (as suggested by ziozeus) too?

What brw means?? Havent you seen the 2 videos?? I change firmwares from 1.62 to 1.54 and back to 1.62 many times..

So you mean to downgrade more before 1.54 ???

It was a typo (should have been "btw" = by the way) so OK, you already tried 1.54 and get the same behaviour, regarding repetitions, correct?

Check the video bro… i have tryed many things

[maxpiano]

I had missed the second video, with 1.54, but if I am not mistaken in that video you test only the sustain issue, not the repetitions we are talking about now.

About the sustain issue on upper notes, since those notes have no dampers it, also in a real piano the sustain has no effect on them (there are no dampers to lift), so we may discuss about the length of the "auto-sustain" of those notes, but sustain pedal behaviour seems correct.

[M1tsos]

I had missed the second video, with 1.54, but if I am not mistaken in that video you test only the sustain issue, not the repetitions we are talking about now.

About the sustain issue on upper notes, since those notes have no dampers it, also in a real piano the sustain has no effect on them (there are no dampers to lift), so we may discuss about the length of the "auto-sustain" of those notes, but sustain pedal behaviour seems correct.

Ita 2 videos bro.. at first video i show i all the possible problems i have with it.. at second video i made it because many didnt hear the difference of the sustain pedal sound .. at the upper notes there is the sound of physical sustain by the notes in their physical form and also the sound of the sustain pedal when pressed down.. when you release the pedal the sound of the sustain pedal keep sounding for almost 2 seconds at the 1.62 version while at the 1.54 it stops as it should..

If you have patience use headphones and check both these videos

Regards