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Re: Nord Grand E-Field Question
Hi, what is the background of your question? Is it a health issue in your eyes (headaches, cancer?), or is it because of playing electric guitar and getting noise from the piano into the guitar pickups?
I think, the piano isn't specially shielded. And it even doesn't have speakers built-in, so you will need additional e-field producing speakers or headphones to hear yourself playing.
I think, the piano isn't specially shielded. And it even doesn't have speakers built-in, so you will need additional e-field producing speakers or headphones to hear yourself playing.
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Re: Nord Grand E-Field Question
By the way - I'm not a scientist. But I don't understand the measuring you encountered on your Kawai: If there is a strong electric field and no magnetic field at all, this must be DC, not AC. But would DC really be able to create a health issue? My first concern would be (pulsed) electromagnetic fields (from AC) - but you don't have that.
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Re: Nord Grand E-Field Question
I am not an expert too, but as I understand measuring if you stay long time in that 'harmfull' e-field it can cause problems(not sure at 100% , just see that it is way beyond the 'normal' level), the main problem is that is is not only very near of piano, but even in 1-1,5m away from it, what is very strange for such device.FZiegler wrote:By the way - I'm not a scientist. But I don't understand the measuring you encountered on your Kawai: If there is a strong electric field and no magnetic field at all, this must be DC, not AC. But would DC really be able to create a health issue? My first concern would be (pulsed) electromagnetic fields (from AC) - but you don't have that.
As you say I need speakers for nord, but I will put it far away that it is in kawai so it will be no problem at all.
And yes I am curious about health (I spend hours every day playing piano) in future and also for pickups from my guitar , my strat really hear it
thanks for respond
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Re: Nord Grand E-Field Question
I've been following keyboard forums for DECADES, and this is the very first time anyone has ever asked this question.
In general, modern keyboards are low-power digital devices. They use DC, don't draw much power, and don't emit much RF.
While I'll leave it to you to ascertain any discernible health issues, it's probably a lot less than a laptop, tablet, phone or other similar digital device.
In general, modern keyboards are low-power digital devices. They use DC, don't draw much power, and don't emit much RF.
While I'll leave it to you to ascertain any discernible health issues, it's probably a lot less than a laptop, tablet, phone or other similar digital device.
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Re: Nord Grand E-Field Question
I do understand your concerns but my first question is if your measurement is correct and reliable. The GM3120 is a VERY cheap device and I would not trust it's results a lot.hcimor wrote:I am not an expert too, but as I understand measuring if you stay long time in that 'harmfull' e-field it can cause problems(not sure at 100% , just see that it is way beyond the 'normal' level), the main problem is that is is not only very near of piano, but even in 1-1,5m away from it, what is very strange for such device.FZiegler wrote:By the way - I'm not a scientist. But I don't understand the measuring you encountered on your Kawai: If there is a strong electric field and no magnetic field at all, this must be DC, not AC. But would DC really be able to create a health issue? My first concern would be (pulsed) electromagnetic fields (from AC) - but you don't have that.
As you say I need speakers for nord, but I will put it far away that it is in kawai so it will be no problem at all.
And yes I am curious about health (I spend hours every day playing piano) in future and also for pickups from my guitar , my strat really hear it
thanks for respond
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Re: Nord Grand E-Field Question
I had to look up your Kawai. It's a home instrument with amplifiers and big speakers that use magnets. So, yeah, you're going to pick up some RF activity nearby, just like you would next to a big stereo system.hcimor wrote:Hi
I really want to buy Nord Grand 1/2
But I am curious about its E-field, cause I am really worry about this topic
I just notice that my Kawai CA99 has very harmfull e-field and I afraid to buy another one 4k$ piano with this issue
Maybe someone have a measurement device and can check it with his piano when it is turned on?
Please
It will be very helpfull
Thanks!
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Re: Nord Grand E-Field Question
Hi hcimor
and a very warm welcome to this great forum of nord enthusiasts.
What interests me is if you can tell for sure that this field is caused by your Kawai and not by anything else. Have you tried measuring the keyboard at another place in your house? The reason for asking is to avoid any possible impact from electrical or watering installations at this particular place.
Cheers from Germany
and a very warm welcome to this great forum of nord enthusiasts.
What interests me is if you can tell for sure that this field is caused by your Kawai and not by anything else. Have you tried measuring the keyboard at another place in your house? The reason for asking is to avoid any possible impact from electrical or watering installations at this particular place.
Cheers from Germany
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Re: Nord Grand E-Field Question
Hi:)Tasten-Bert wrote:Hi hcimor
and a very warm welcome to this great forum of nord enthusiasts.
What interests me is if you can tell for sure that this field is caused by your Kawai and not by anything else. Have you tried measuring the keyboard at another place in your house? The reason for asking is to avoid any possible impact from electrical or watering installations at this particular place.
Cheers from Germany
Yes It is 100% from keyboard
Thanks!
Re: Nord Grand E-Field Question
Thanks for suggestionSchorsch wrote:I do understand your concerns but my first question is if your measurement is correct and reliable. The GM3120 is a VERY cheap device and I would not trust it's results a lot.hcimor wrote:I am not an expert too, but as I understand measuring if you stay long time in that 'harmfull' e-field it can cause problems(not sure at 100% , just see that it is way beyond the 'normal' level), the main problem is that is is not only very near of piano, but even in 1-1,5m away from it, what is very strange for such device.FZiegler wrote:By the way - I'm not a scientist. But I don't understand the measuring you encountered on your Kawai: If there is a strong electric field and no magnetic field at all, this must be DC, not AC. But would DC really be able to create a health issue? My first concern would be (pulsed) electromagnetic fields (from AC) - but you don't have that.
As you say I need speakers for nord, but I will put it far away that it is in kawai so it will be no problem at all.
And yes I am curious about health (I spend hours every day playing piano) in future and also for pickups from my guitar , my strat really hear it
thanks for respond
But I think it is accurate
I used it a lot in different areas, when people used another brands and it was almost the same units all the time