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Re: The End - No more Nord Modulars ?

Postby S h a w » 15 Sep 2015, 01:30

Muziksculp wrote:Now that Reaktor 6 is out, what is the disappointing part about it that you are referring to ? and how different is Reaktor 6 to NL Modular sonically ?


As best as I can tell... No new features. It has a new look, a new UI that doesn't appear to offer any new functionality, and aside from that... Nothing new. That's disappointing.

It's been a LONG time since I sold my G2, but as I remember, the sounds quality is comparable. They are both, after all, VA synths.

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Re: The End - No more Nord Modulars ?

Postby Muziksculp » 15 Sep 2015, 03:56

S h a w wrote:
Muziksculp wrote:Now that Reaktor 6 is out, what is the disappointing part about it that you are referring to ? and how different is Reaktor 6 to NL Modular sonically ?


As best as I can tell... No new features. It has a new look, a new UI that doesn't appear to offer any new functionality, and aside from that... Nothing new. That's disappointing.

It's been a LONG time since I sold my G2, but as I remember, the sounds quality is comparable. They are both, after all, VA synths.

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Hi S h a w ,

Thanks for the feedback.

For some reason, I was not too impressed with the Reaktor based instruments I heard, imho. the Nord Modular has a fatter/fuller sound compared to NI Reaktor synths. Do you share this view, or is it just a wrong perception from my side ?

Would love to see Clavia move back into the modular world, either via a new G3 Modular Synth, or a just go Modular-VST ! I know chances of that happening is very, very slim.

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Re: The End - No more Nord Modulars ?

Postby S h a w » 15 Sep 2015, 13:28

Muziksculp wrote:For some reason, I was not too impressed with the Reaktor based instruments I heard, imho. the Nord Modular has a fatter/fuller sound compared to NI Reaktor synths. Do you share this view, or is it just a wrong perception from my side ?


I think your ears are quite correct. NI synths have always sounded thin to me... And it's disappointing because the concept of Reaktor is such an exciting one. I keep wanting it to sound good (I can fatten it up quite a bit by running it through the Niio Iotine Core, but that's an extra step).

I'd really love to see U-He tackle this concept. They are one of several companies out there that make amazing sounding VSTs.

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Re: The End - No more Nord Modulars ?

Postby Muziksculp » 15 Sep 2015, 20:36

S h a w wrote:
Muziksculp wrote:For some reason, I was not too impressed with the Reaktor based instruments I heard, imho. the Nord Modular has a fatter/fuller sound compared to NI Reaktor synths. Do you share this view, or is it just a wrong perception from my side ?


I think your ears are quite correct. NI synths have always sounded thin to me... And it's disappointing because the concept of Reaktor is such an exciting one. I keep wanting it to sound good (I can fatten it up quite a bit by running it through the Niio Iotine Core, but that's an extra step).

I'd really love to see U-He tackle this concept. They are one of several companies out there that make amazing sounding VSTs.

Cheers!


Hi S h a w,

Thanks for confirming that I don't need an ear Dr. checkup :)

Yes, NI Synths have a character that I don't fancy, not sure how to describe it, but thin, cold, metallic sounding come to mind.

I agree, U-he would be the perfect developer for this, I think he is working on a serious modular VST Synth, not sure if it is called (Berlin), but that's what I recall, so maybe this will be the dream modular VST synth we are hoping for.

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Re: The End - No more Nord Modulars ?

Postby pablomastodon » 16 Sep 2015, 04:57

Another thread hijacked by off-topic posts...
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Re: The End - No more Nord Modulars ?

Postby S h a w » 16 Sep 2015, 13:19

pablomastodon wrote:Another thread hijacked by off-topic posts...



Sorry Pablo... It was the natural progression of the conversation.

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Re: The End - No more Nord Modulars ?

Postby Happy » 12 Oct 2015, 06:26

Nord could follow Roland idea to make the G3 like the Roland System 1 / Aria line ? Create plug-ins of their (older) products (as well as G1/G2) and download as plug-out into the G3. Idea ?
Basically this what the Axoloti does.
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Re: The End - No more Nord Modulars ?

Postby S h a w » 12 Oct 2015, 14:34

Or... Even if Nord never made another VA modular... They could still remain relavant to the modular crowd by taking a page from the DSI Pro 2 on the next Nord Lead --- think about CV Ins & Outs that are part of an expanded modulation matrix on a Nord Lead 5. (( if you're not familiar, see the Pro 2 here -- http://www.prolyd.no/Media/Cache/Images ... 197734.Png ))

Now that would be groovy.

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Re: The End - No more Nord Modulars ?

Postby pablomastodon » 13 Oct 2015, 07:40

audio inputs would be pretty groovy, too...

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Re: The End - No more Nord Modulars ?

Postby Happy » 13 Oct 2015, 09:12

The good thing about the Leads/Modulars is/was that they are 4 parts multi-timbral and polyphonic while other manufacturers (think Roland, Moog) trend is mostly towards single voice/part rack units. For 4 parts it would mean 4 sets of patch connectors, that would be hard to fit in a 3/4U module. Maybe it could be an external patch rack I/O module, like what existed for the Voyager rack (obsolete now). A single/dual voice, 4 parts true analog module and by putting multiple amplifiers and filter in serial and parallel would be my dream. A set of 3 to 4 system1m/Mother32 is now about equal to the cost of a 4R rack and I am wondering if one really needs so much polyphony from a lead. (Leads are then just more space efficient) Just trying to say that the cost of true or very close to analog has come down a lot, these modules having much more patch connection options than the Leads and now have become available as sub-modular (patch-able) rack form factors. That could stir the end, after the Electro racks [ something I really want, even without the knobs, just CC/Sysex only by using an external hard or software controller but also heavily downplayed as useful in the Electro forum :-() ] for demand of Lead racks, also because Leads are VA and people are more looking for analog these days. I would agree with you that Clavia may give modular a 2nd thought by pulling the old tech out of closet or innovating on it (or make it open hardware/software if they really never want to look at it again as they said) but it might be tough to ask a high price for it. Anyhow, I am preparing my 19" rack for Eurorack sized (sub/hybrid)-synhthesizer/modules now as I am hoping and expecting the next step to be multi-timbral (part) (semi)-analog rack mount devices..:-) I could be very wrong. Probably we'll see where the trend goes at NAMM 2016. These are exiting times.
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