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NLA1 patch; NeoTines (FM, with extra everything)

Postby Marlowes » 07 May 2015, 21:06

Salut!

NeoTines (FM, with extra everything)
Stuff you can only do with the NLA1. 8-)


In the beginning I was Juno guy. Early 80s, Södergren was by my side with his DX. I left the tricky FM stuff to him. But later on he left for another band.
Now, 2015, I got interested in exploring FM possibilities since I read the brilliant paper "FM for dummies with NS2" by Neo.
Since my NS2 is still in the attic, I'm using my, in all aspects truly superior, NLA1/SRU (Swedish Reference Unit, verified by Ricard). But the dummy part still applies. To me.

The NLA1 is as you all know at least four synths in parallell, both Juno and DX at the same time. I'll use it all ... and more.
The target for this mission is some FM Tines that would please even Whitney. Eat your heart out, Mr Jamal Hartwell. http://fmtines.com/


Step 1: the attack
I'm aiming for the "tock" when the hammer hits the tine.
FM, sine wave, take the modulator up 4 octaves to get it really bright - OscConfig = F+48.
OscCtrl 0!
But set ModEnvAmt to 10 so the ModEnv ADR can open it.
Now, tweak the envelope to get the percussive effect. 0,3,0 seems to work fine.
Filter LP24, freq 5.8, then morph the filter freq up to full ... get some velocity dynamics. Filters are not generally associated with FM but I'm fond of cheating. Just ask my wife.
Unison 2, makes a nice fat impact
AmpEnv ADR 0,4.5,0 - helps the ModEnv
Reverb Stage2 4.0
Level adjust later in the mix
Slot A, without & with FX


Step 2: the tonebar
FM, sine wave again. OscConfig F0. Just plain. You can almost hear the sine ...
OscCtrl 1 - just a tiny bit of dirt
Envelope no
Filter LP24, open
Unison 3 for huge fatness
Tremolo I tried a tiny pinch, but removed it later
AmpEnv ADR 0,7,4.7 so there is no abrupt stop
Reverb Stage2 4.0
Chorus yes! yes! 4.0
Level adjust later in the mix
Slot B, without & with FX


Eh?
No of operators? The DX7, SY77 & 99 has 6, lesser ones, like the DX11, 21 & FB01 only 4. Which sounds not that good.
I started here with 2+2 ... but then stack them further with the unison function ... X4 => 16 ops. :-)
Slot A+B, with FX


Step 3: the tinkle
Let's use the bell waveforms for this - b3 was my choice
OscConfig to Pit
OscCtrl 0
Filter HP, freq 4.0 - you want it really bright to almost hurt you ears
Envelope no
Unison 2
AmpEnv ADR 0,5.5,0 so it's not too long
Reverb Stage2 4.0
Level adjust later in the mix
Slot C, with FX



Step 4: the choir
Here I can use the formant waveforms. I found F3 fitting my ears.
OscConfig to Pit
OscCtrl 0
Envelope no
Also, I lowered it an octave for more "masculinity". Felt better.
Unison 3
AmpEnv ADR 6,7,0 for smoothness
Reverb Stage2 4.0
Level adjust later in the mix
Slot D, with FX



Step 5: the performance
Part 1,2,3,4 => slot A,B,C,D. All activated.
Levels adjusted: 5,6,2,1.6


Step 6: the outboarder
I got some new gear. Why not use it? OK - I admit I got GAS.
Exciter, the old (mid 1970s) psychoacoustic classic - today as a digital gadget, will do the job. More sparkle to the people!
Now we're totally ready for the romantic 80s again. And ... it's OK to cry ...
Alls four slots, with FX + a little Exciter. Here we go:



Yes Neo, you have my permission to base a NS2 version of this patch and put into your paper. ;)

All - tweak the slots further, feel free to suggest improvements to this recipe! I will of course dismiss them.
NeoTines slot A.nlas
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NeoTines slot B.nlas
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NeoTines slot C.nlas
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NeoTInes slot D.nlas
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NeoTines all 4.nlap
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/Très cordialement
Michael en Scanie
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Re: NLA1 patch; NeoTines (FM, with extra everything)

Postby AinTziLLo » 07 May 2015, 23:24

:clap: :clap: :clap: great superb fantastic wonderful work!!!
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Re: NLA1 patch; NeoTines (FM, with extra everything)

Postby neolithic » 07 May 2015, 23:52

:clap: Nice work!
(I am honoured for the references - thanks! ) btw I'll be adding an updated version this weekend...
And now for something completely different...

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Re: NLA1 patch; NeoTines (FM, with extra everything)

Postby AinTziLLo » 08 May 2015, 00:18

Thanks Neo!
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Re: NLA1 patch; NeoTines (FM, with extra everything)

Postby Ceyhan » 08 May 2015, 20:24

wow, great stuff Marlowes. So will it be possible for us to use the "NeoTines all 4" sound in our Electro series as .nsmp in the future?

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Re: NLA1 patch; NeoTines (FM, with extra everything)

Postby pablomastodon » 09 May 2015, 05:46

Ceyhan wrote:wow, great stuff Marlowes. So will it be possible for us to use the "NeoTines all 4" sound in our Electro series as .nsmp in the future?


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Re: NLA1 patch; NeoTines (FM, with extra everything)

Postby Marlowes » 09 May 2015, 09:11

Hej Ceyhan!

Yes, just buy a NLA1 and a MIDI cable ... ;)





(There are lots of better Tines *.nsmp files on this forum ... that's what I used on my NS2. :thumbup: )

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Re: NLA1 patch; NeoTines (FM, with extra everything)

Postby combathook » 10 May 2015, 14:19

Sounds great. That formant sound is so rich, almost sounds like the old Roland VP 330 choirs.

A1: 1
NL4: 0

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Re: NLA1 patch; NeoTines (FM, with extra everything)

Postby Marlowes » 10 May 2015, 18:07

Hej!

NLA1: 1
NL4: 0


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Re: NLA1 patch; NeoTines (FM, with extra everything)

Postby AinTziLLo » 10 May 2015, 18:35

Marlowes wrote:Hej!

NLA1: 1
NL4: 0


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