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I have also noticed when you run the Nord through a stereo mixer you must pan the signals hard left and right. Otherwise you will get phasing issues that make the pianos sound thin.

Yes you are so right.

Amping is great factor and - i am not voodoo - the cable:

I was searching after the warm and great grand for several theatre sessions here and can't find it although the "old" (Lady D or USB are much newer) samples of the Bösendorfer Imperial XL on my electro 6 are installed.

My tip is - as mentioned before:

1.) Use good stereo amping.
In my case i bought a second Line6 l2t - Stage Source to get the stereo sum elaborated and yes - without any phase problems the golden Stereo-Effect has been there. But you could go further!

2.) Use good cable.
In my case i tried several carbon activated blahblah cable without any effect. As i heard Andrew Scheps in an interview saying that he swears on good cable i tried a pair of KLOTZ FunkMaster Stevens and these cables are a secret wappon! You will not believe your ears!

I am very sceptical (working as an organist in the classical field) but my goal was let hear the subtil differences esp. in the small Octave of the Bösendorfer. They are critical to record!

The cable from Klotz (capacity 80 pF/m and diameter Ø 6,8 mm) bring me a "german" wireworld-happening and i disabled the Schulz Hi-Grade OFC Audio Cord.

Yes! For a small amount of money the cable from Klotz overwhelmed my expactations. Never bevor i heard samples without tonal colour oder interferencies.

Try this!
Peter

Instrumentenkabel,4,5m,Winkel T.M. Stevens FunkMaster

After a couple of years of being underwhelmed with the acoustics I am happiest with the white piano, it seems to respond musically. Most most of the time now I stick to the electric pianos I find them kick ass on every gig in any musical situation.

Thanks Pit - Lip for sharing your experiences of Klotz cables and the improvement in sound quality I will give them a try. As an owner of 2 stereo PA systems yes I appreciate the acoustic pianos sound more expansive as they were sampled in stereo. I feel however it is a shame you felt it necessary to buy another speaker to make your Electro really work. Surely those opting to buy a lightweight keyboard (like myself) may feel that benefit has been negated by the speaker requirements. This topic of acoustic piano samples is a frequent one on this forum. Has Nord spent much development on producing a fantastic sample which works great with a small mono speaker, surely this would suit many Electro users for rehearsals and small gigs?

AndyG1955 wrote:Thanks Pit - Lip for sharing your experiences of Klotz cables and the improvement in sound quality I will give them a try. As an owner of 2 stereo PA systems yes I appreciate the acoustic pianos sound more expansive as they were sampled in stereo. I feel however it is a shame you felt it necessary to buy another speaker to make your Electro really work. Surely those opting to buy a lightweight keyboard (like myself) may feel that benefit has been negated by the speaker requirements. This topic of acoustic piano samples is a frequent one on this forum. Has Nord spent much development on producing a fantastic sample which works great with a small mono speaker, surely this would suit many Electro users for rehearsals and small gigs?

That's a fair comment. There are plenty of keyboards on the market that provide a heavily processed piano voice that sounds pretty good using mediocre amplification. In the Nord world, the Electric Grands, the Digital Pianos, EPs etc. don't require decent amplification and sound pretty good in my opinion. If you're playing through a mediocre mono speaker, consider these.

But if you want the acoustic pianos to sound their best to your ears, you'll have to use decent (stereo) amplification: headphones, IEMs, studio monitors, stage monitors, etc. BTW, the Electro works just fine using mediocre mono amplification. It sounds much better through better stereo gear, though.

That’s pretty much sums it up, CP. With my stereo rig I can use Acoustics and everything else, small mono speaker not acoustics. But I have other pianos – Yamaha, Technics and Roland with acoustic samples which sound better, usable in mono with a small combo. So in direct comparison you can’t help feeling Nord have missed the point and not produced a usable mono sample?