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Re: Should I return my Electro 5 and wait for the 6?

Postby anotherscott » 31 Jan 2018, 03:40

Blazerunner wrote:I always said I wish it had more room for samples and if I could layer the sounds I wanted.

Note that you'll be able to layer 3 rather than 2 sounds, but still only one per engine. So one of the three sounds must be a piano library sound, and one must be an organ. You still can't layer two sample library sounds.

Blazerunner wrote: Me I don't like VST's but I can't count the number of times someone has tried to push me away from buying a Keyboard trying to get me to go the VST route. That's just the new norm now because it's more accessible and cheaper route for people to get into to create music these days but I was saying that "features" are no longer a limitation manufacturers can afford to have if they're going to survive VST's. You have to put more into your keyboards otherwise it's a 1up on VST's.

What Nord has over the VSTs is the customized, hands-on, dedicated interface. You simply interact it with it differently than you do a controller running a set of VSTs. So instead of trying to compete with VSTs at their own game (a losing battle), they compete by doing well what VSTs do poorly. If you simply want the biggest sound libraries, the most memory, etc., the MI hardware mfrs are not going to win that game. They have to find other ways to provide what some will find to be a better user experience.

Blazerunner wrote:But I dropped $2,500 on it and if there's a new version with more in that price range... hey why not wait and upgrade?

If you're in no rush, sure, the E6 will almost certainly be better than the E5 for most people. (Though it looks like it may be losing Set List mode, which may make the E5 better for some.) If you can manage it, though, I still think you'd be happier with the NS3, which addresses more of what you've seen as Electro shortcomings than the E6 does. Whether 5 or 6, I think the Electro is still best for players with a piano/organ focus.
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Re: Should I return my Electro 5 and wait for the 6?

Postby baekgaard » 31 Jan 2018, 09:53

Blazerunner wrote:... People can't differentiate between critiquing a product and bashing a product. ... When I'm assessing my Keyboard I'm basing it's features against other keyboards I've owned or played...


So if I get this right, you're saying that the everyone else ("people") don't understand how to properly discuss product features, whereas you -- as opposed to everyone else -- just provide factual assessments based on objective comparisons of keyboards that you own and have played (another ad hominem line of defence)?

IMHO, you may have gotten some of that wrong. It is possible that some of us also have played and compared our Nord(s) to other keyboards; some may even be able to both discuss and critique keyboards somewhat objectively and possibly provide factual information or tests or reasoned logic. If you're in this forum both to share and to learn, then I would kindly like to suggest reconsidering the balance between the two objectives.

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Re: Should I return my Electro 5 and wait for the 6?

Postby fieldflower » 31 Jan 2018, 11:28

But... isn't Blazerunner entitled to his opinion on what he'd like to see in future versions...?
So what if his wishlist is a little longer than others'?

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Re: Should I return my Electro 5 and wait for the 6?

Postby DanielD71 » 31 Jan 2018, 12:46

You’re the one to decide if you want to return it and wait for the 6 to arrive.
The electro 5 is a good keyboard but I sold mine in order to buy my NS288EX.

You need to make yourself the pros vs cons... and if you have the money, buy the 5 and the 6 :-)

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Re: Should I return my Electro 5 and wait for the 6?

Postby analogika » 31 Jan 2018, 12:56

fieldflower wrote:But... isn't Blazerunner entitled to his opinion on what he'd like to see in future versions...?
So what if his wishlist is a little longer than others'?

“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”

That’s perfectly fine.

But buying a horse, being disappointed by its features, and then loudly and repeatedly clamouring about being ripped off and comparing individual features to those of a chamaeleon, leopard, snow owl, and a blue whale, and then claiming that the horse dealer should be more like the aquarium shop, does not mean others won’t or shouldn’t point out you’re being a bit of an idiot.
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Re: Should I return my Electro 5 and wait for the 6?

Postby NoDirection » 31 Jan 2018, 13:31

We must not forget that Clavia Nord is a very small specialized company in a high cost country (Sweden) that had some very good ideas about making the most User-friendly/ Gig-friendly keyboards on the market. I don't think they have the resources to satisfy Blazerunner's ideas of what makes a good keyboard and what it should cost. But for most of us on this friendly User Forum we are very satisfied with most of the choices made by Nord, and I am really impressed what such a small company is able to produce of new products. There will always be some bugs and room for improvements, but I think Nord make some unique keyboards, but they are not for all...
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Re: Should I return my Electro 5 and wait for the 6?

Postby criss » 31 Jan 2018, 13:45

Blazerunner, from your last post (and other ones) it seems that you need a Sampler, not an Electro. The Sampler gives you all you want, a lot of memory and all the tools to customize your sounds. The Electro's are for piano & organ players, for live performance, and the Sample Synth section is just a (useful) bonus.
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Re: Should I return my Electro 5 and wait for the 6?

Postby baekgaard » 31 Jan 2018, 14:08

fieldflower wrote:But... isn't Blazerunner entitled to his opinion on what he'd like to see in future versions...?
So what if his wishlist is a little longer than others'?


Surely so.

I'm not sure if you were addressing my comment or this was a general comment to the thread, but anyway: I was just trying to encourage an equal footed discussion without claiming (again!) that those that don't agree to a particular point of view are biased and opposes objective facts :-)
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Re: Should I return my Electro 5 and wait for the 6?

Postby fieldflower » 31 Jan 2018, 15:32

baekgaard wrote:
fieldflower wrote:But... isn't Blazerunner entitled to his opinion on what he'd like to see in future versions...?
So what if his wishlist is a little longer than others'?


Surely so.

I'm not sure if you were addressing my comment or this was a general comment to the thread, but anyway: I was just trying to encourage an equal footed discussion without claiming (again!) that those that don't agree to a particular point of view are biased and opposes objective facts :-)


General comment to the (more or less) bashing of Blazerunners comments.

Some are more outspoken than others.
I don't have to agree that something someone else really is missing is a good thing to have at all.
Someone who ponies up the dough for a Nord is probably loving other stuff enough to make the Nord choice.

It's just bad to make someones wishlist into a good or bad, hot or cold, black or white question.
Bashing others ideas and wishes isn't the way to go. Live and let live. There's even a learning in what others want, even if it's unimaginably impossible to achieve here and now.
He's not pi--ing on our choice of keyboard just because he wants features....

IMHO :keyboard2:
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Re: Should I return my Electro 5 and wait for the 6?

Postby PScooter63 » 31 Jan 2018, 19:11

fieldflower wrote:Bashing others ideas and wishes isn't the way to go.

This community would be pretty worthless if logical fallacies and false premises were not identified for what they are, by folks who volunteer their time to help those obviously less experienced.

Also, invoking emotional trigger words like "bashing" can be every bit as unhelpful as name-calling would be.

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