Hi guys,
I am a (very happy) user of the NE3 seventy-three... and I recently decided to buy the NE 6D...
I am trying it for the first time in these hours, and I am comparing it with the NE3.
Amazing instrument, amazing sounds. I am globally satisfied with it.
I see two contras:
The NE6D gives the opportunity to create combinations with organ, piano, synth and split them over the octaves.
While this is a nice feature, I am not really sure is really useful (at least not for me, not for live).
I have the impression this features makes the keyboard much more complicated. In particular, when you activate an effect, you have to be sure to select the right source... otherwise the effect will apply to a (non-activated) module. This is a pity... especially for musicians like me, that are used to play only a module at a time.
The second contra, more important, is the keybed.
I have the impression that is much easier to play the NE3-seventythree compared to the NE6.
Both keyboards are Semi Weighted Waterfall... but I perceive a lot of differences in term of touch. Do you know where the difference are? Did Nord change the keybed tehnologies? I am hesitating to mount my old NE3 keybed on the NE6D...
Thanks for reading!
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Re: nord electro 3 /seventythree) vs nord electro 6D keybed
I assume that the keybed of the E6 is a little stiff because it is still new, after some playing it will probably get softer.
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Re: nord electro 3 /seventythree) vs nord electro 6D keybed
I think the ten year newer NE6 may have been improved on some accounts... And in addition, the keyboard to velocity mapping is different. So yes, they feel different.
You will probably get used to it!
I have both and much prefer the NE6 - I can even play acoustic piano reasonably well on that without sounding weird
You will probably get used to it!
I have both and much prefer the NE6 - I can even play acoustic piano reasonably well on that without sounding weird
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Re: nord electro 3 /seventythree) vs nord electro 6D keybed
Hi dcere,
Not saying that I would recommend this, but if both instruments are 73-note waterfalls, then there would be no problem swapping keybeds between them. Put another way, if a crazed ex-girlfriend decided to take a hammer to the keys of either (or both) instrument, forcing you to order a new replacement keybed, the same identical part would be provided for either NE3 or NE6
with regard to your earlier comment regarding engaging an effect during live performance...that would/should be a task which you complete before going to the gig, "doing your homework." Assume that you have a grouping of 20 programs which you might use during a gig, go through each one, engage all the effects and ensure that they are assigned as you might potentially want them, then disengage and store the edits. That way there will be no surprises during your gig.
Yes, the instrument brings a higher level of complexity to the table. This is a necessary by-product of bringing a higher level of flexibility to the table. Agreed that some folks will prefer the simplicity of the older, monotimbral designs. In that case, the NE4-SW73 will be optimal choice for retaining that level of simplicity while maximizing memory for both pianos and samples. Somewhat ironic that after years of producing Electros with this rigid monotimbral, no splits, no layers design in the face of many folks demanding expanded flexibility, that offering the expanded flexibility would trigger complaints about the loss of simplicity. But there's really no right and wrong to this scenario. Different players with different musical needs will naturally prefer different feature sets. That's just a fact of life. Perhaps someday Nord will issue a "throwback" edition of the Electro with big memory but retained monotimbrality -- but I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.
bless, pablo
Not saying that I would recommend this, but if both instruments are 73-note waterfalls, then there would be no problem swapping keybeds between them. Put another way, if a crazed ex-girlfriend decided to take a hammer to the keys of either (or both) instrument, forcing you to order a new replacement keybed, the same identical part would be provided for either NE3 or NE6
with regard to your earlier comment regarding engaging an effect during live performance...that would/should be a task which you complete before going to the gig, "doing your homework." Assume that you have a grouping of 20 programs which you might use during a gig, go through each one, engage all the effects and ensure that they are assigned as you might potentially want them, then disengage and store the edits. That way there will be no surprises during your gig.
Yes, the instrument brings a higher level of complexity to the table. This is a necessary by-product of bringing a higher level of flexibility to the table. Agreed that some folks will prefer the simplicity of the older, monotimbral designs. In that case, the NE4-SW73 will be optimal choice for retaining that level of simplicity while maximizing memory for both pianos and samples. Somewhat ironic that after years of producing Electros with this rigid monotimbral, no splits, no layers design in the face of many folks demanding expanded flexibility, that offering the expanded flexibility would trigger complaints about the loss of simplicity. But there's really no right and wrong to this scenario. Different players with different musical needs will naturally prefer different feature sets. That's just a fact of life. Perhaps someday Nord will issue a "throwback" edition of the Electro with big memory but retained monotimbrality -- but I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.
bless, pablo
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Re: nord electro 3 /seventythree) vs nord electro 6D keybed
baekgaard wrote:I think the ten year newer NE6 may have been improved on some accounts... And in addition, the keyboard to velocity mapping is different. So yes, they feel different.
You will probably get used to it!
I have both and much prefer the NE6 - I can even play acoustic piano reasonably well on that without sounding weird
Ya, when I tested the keyboard-velocity mapping, I was bit surprised: when a key is pressed very smoothly, the piano sound isn't triggered
Said this, I guess your right, I will get used to it
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Re: nord electro 3 /seventythree) vs nord electro 6D keybed
pablomastodon wrote:Hi dcere,
Not saying that I would recommend this, but if both instruments are 73-note waterfalls, then there would be no problem swapping keybeds between them. Put another way, if a crazed ex-girlfriend decided to take a hammer to the keys of either (or both) instrument, forcing you to order a new replacement keybed, the same identical part would be provided for either NE3 or NE6
with regard to your earlier comment regarding engaging an effect during live performance...that would/should be a task which you complete before going to the gig, "doing your homework." Assume that you have a grouping of 20 programs which you might use during a gig, go through each one, engage all the effects and ensure that they are assigned as you might potentially want them, then disengage and store the edits. That way there will be no surprises during your gig.
Yes, the instrument brings a higher level of complexity to the table. This is a necessary by-product of bringing a higher level of flexibility to the table. Agreed that some folks will prefer the simplicity of the older, monotimbral designs. In that case, the NE4-SW73 will be optimal choice for retaining that level of simplicity while maximizing memory for both pianos and samples. Somewhat ironic that after years of producing Electros with this rigid monotimbral, no splits, no layers design in the face of many folks demanding expanded flexibility, that offering the expanded flexibility would trigger complaints about the loss of simplicity. But there's really no right and wrong to this scenario. Different players with different musical needs will naturally prefer different feature sets. That's just a fact of life. Perhaps someday Nord will issue a "throwback" edition of the Electro with big memory but retained monotimbrality -- but I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.
bless, pablo
Hey Pablo, thanks for your answer.
As researcher in user experience/usability, I would say that complaints about the loss of simplicity is something you can expect when the complexity of a system is increased.
Nothing ironic about it. Consider Apple, that made ease of use their trademark
Now, everything depends on your use cases. In some of the music projects I am, I prepare sounds before the gigs.
In other jam-projects, everything depends on the feel during the gig... doing homework becomes more complicated. So a simple keyboard is what I need in such projects.
Years ago, I chose the NE3 because of its simplicity compared to Stage solutions. Now with the NE6, I have the impression to have a NordStage
But again, I am very happy with the keyboard... I will get use it it!
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Re: nord electro 3 /seventythree) vs nord electro 6D keybed
pablomastodon wrote:if a crazed ex-girlfriend decided to take a hammer to the keys of either (or both) instrument, forcing you to order a new replacement keybed
Sounds like that situation's still a bit raw Pablo! Splitting, and the ability to apply effects selectively, I see as a huge advantage for a live situation. As Pablo said, set up all your presets beforehand, but also, once you get the hang of the interface, changing effects on the fly is a breeze.
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Re: nord electro 3 /seventythree) vs nord electro 6D keybed
CountFosco wrote:pablomastodon wrote:if a crazed ex-girlfriend decided to take a hammer to the keys of either (or both) instrument, forcing you to order a new replacement keybed
Sounds like that situation's still a bit raw Pablo! Splitting, and the ability to apply effects selectively, I see as a huge advantage for a live situation. As Pablo said, set up all your presets beforehand, but also, once you get the hang of the interface, changing effects on the fly is a breeze.
Yes this for sure... Question of getting used to it.
Cheers to all
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Re: nord electro 3 /seventythree) vs nord electro 6D keybed
dcere wrote:when I tested the keyboard-velocity mapping, I was bit surprised: when a key is pressed very smoothly, the piano sound isn't triggered
because that's how a real grand piano works... very slow strikes produce no sound. (Though since the strings are undamped, they will still produce resonances when other notes are struck.)
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Re: nord electro 3 /seventythree) vs nord electro 6D keybed
anotherscott wrote:dcere wrote:when I tested the keyboard-velocity mapping, I was bit surprised: when a key is pressed very smoothly, the piano sound isn't triggered
because that's how a real grand piano works... very slow strikes produce no sound. (Though since the strings are undamped, they will still produce resonances when other notes are struck.)
The Electro’s didn’t always behave like this. In the earlier models, even the softest keypress would trigger a sound. Nord has certainly worked on this aspect.
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