Newbie questions for the Electro 6D

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Re: Newbie questions for the Electro 6D

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I agree, stereo is preferable but not required for a good rotary effect. (Listen to all the old mono recordings that had Hammond organ!) In fact, I think it can even be a negative, if you don't put some thought into the particulars. For example, if you take a close-miked Leslie effect and send it hard-panned to two speakers that are far apart from each other (e.g. on either side of the stage), that's not going to give you a good Leslie effect. It should not sound like an auto-pan, or like the Leslie cabinet is 30 feet wide. I'd rather hear a mono Leslie effect than a stereo one where the speaker/panning placement hasn't been given due consideration.

I think stereo works better when you have a stereo setup near you on the stage, and the venue is small enough that people are hearing you from your stage setup. Once your going into the mains, there's a lot of argument for mono, in general. This is further complicated when a single keyboard is used for different sounds, that may have different stereo demands. For example, maybe you want to pan the two "sides" of a rotary effect to not be too far apart from each other, but then if you do the same thing with your stereo piano sounds, you can get phasing issues. Mono for the house solves all this, and provides the same balance to all seats in the venue.
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Re: Newbie questions for the Electro 6D

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Well, I ordered the Electro 6D 73. Will be here in a few days. Thanks all who you comments and suggestions.

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Re: Newbie questions for the Electro 6D

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Congratulations, great instrument. Have fun. Cheers
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Re: Newbie questions for the Electro 6D

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I asked this question earlier:

"The manual states: "When shipped, the nord electro 6 is configured to output all audio through the Left & Right outputs"
And "In Stereo mode, all sounds are sent to both audio outputs."
I plan on running a guitar cord to my bass amp. Can I plug into either LEFT or RIGHT output channel and be OK? If I use a split patch such as piano/organ, will both sounds be summed MONO to both the LEFT or RIGHT?
I just want a MONO out to an amp."


I noticed reading the manual that there is a global "MONO" button in the piano section that apparently affects all patches until you either turn it off or the piano is turned off.
It this correct? If so, my concern is unwarranted. I can run a guitar plug to the bass amp and have mono....
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Re: Newbie questions for the Electro 6D

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Yes, I‘d say I read it the same. Page 15 of the manual
https://www.nordkeyboards.com/sites/def ... on%20F.pdf
is it. One can argue why a global button is located in the piano section, but the wording seems clear.
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Re: Newbie questions for the Electro 6D

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Even if Nord piano sounds are produced to be played in stereo, there are some that are reported to sound good in mono, too. Which is important, as a lot of stage situations will have mono amplification anyhow.

There are different ways to play in mono: The simplest way would be to choose either the left or right channel for amplification - which will result in a sort of emphasis of either lower or higher piano frequencies. Next way would be that [mono] button. Another solution is to keep the instrument in stereo and forward both channels to a single amplification. All of these are reported to be used. So you have to see what you'll prefer.

I read the manual in that way that the [mono] button reacts globally in a double sense:
a) it not only affects the piano sounds, but effects (and that way organ), too;
b) it is not a per-program feature, but will work for all programs as long as it's on.
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Re: Newbie questions for the Electro 6D

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Perhaps someone who owns an Electro 6 can verify this for us. (My NE6D 73 is still 2 days away from delivery) <G>

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Re: Newbie questions for the Electro 6D

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mrsugmad wrote:Perhaps someone who owns an Electro 6 can verify this for us. (My NE6D 73 is still 2 days away from delivery) <G>

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The mono button impacts all engines (piano, organ and synth). It belonged to the program and was not a global setting up until release 2.50 of the firmware, but is now a global setting - so it stays in whatever state you have it across program changes, until you reboot.

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Re: Newbie questions for the Electro 6D

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baekgaard wrote:
mrsugmad wrote:Perhaps someone who owns an Electro 6 can verify this for us. (My NE6D 73 is still 2 days away from delivery) <G>

Mike
The mono button impacts all engines (piano, organ and synth). It belonged to the program and was not a global setting up until release 2.50 of the firmware, but is now a global setting - so it stays in whatever state you have it across program changes, until you reboot.

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Re: Newbie questions for the Electro 6D

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I think if you can monitor in stereo - you will get more of the Leslie vibe - that should give your playing a bit more energy and the audience might pick up on that. If you're playing through a PA I would go mono just in case the engineer pans your keys hard left and right - that would be too much! I also think mono is more focused and has more punch. Better for rock anyway. When I record my real Leslie I just put one mic on the horn and the other on the rotor. But sometimes I've got good results with one mic just about a foot away and closer to the horn.

The weird thing about simulating the Leslie is that the Nord should send the Horn and Rotor out of separate outputs. Then you could put your speakers on top of each other!
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