B3 and control pedal

[jack_zorz]

Hi! Can someone explain to me why the 0% on my control pedal does not correspond on the 0 volume ONLY when assigned to the b3 organ?
This means that with the pedal at 0% i can still hear the b3 sound, very low of course, but still present.
This problem does not occur for other organ models. If i switch for example to Farfisa, the pedal is working normally and i can "mute" the sound".
Can someone explain this to me?
Thanks for your help!

[Hlaalu]

Hi, it's intended: the pedal controls expression in the Hammond and the sound doesn't quit totally even when at 0.

[jack_zorz]

On the Nord Stage there's a difference between the control pedal and the organ swell pedal. The swell pedal does exactly what you describe, the control pedal allows a lot of modulation ('morphs') and would be programmable to got to 0 volume if wanted. Your Electro only has one pedal for volume change - and acts as a organ swell pedal if assigned to the organ. Where the behaviour is different for a Hammond organ and others.

So, in this case the pedal acts like the original.

[jack_zorz]

I understand, thank you very much Could be a useful feature to add in the settings however... you don't always want that as a keyboard player and not organ player!

[Hlaalu]

I have two FC7s connected to the NS3: one is the swell and the other I use for morphing. Note that it's not the same to morph the volume level of the B3 and controlling it with the swell, and the difference isn't just that when the swell is at 0, you still hear sound. It's called swell/expression because it affects the sound way beyond volume. By the way you can adjust the behaviour of the pedal(s) in the menu.

[jack_zorz]

I have two FC7s connected to the NS3: one is the swell and the other I use for morphing. Note that it's not the same to morph the volume level of the B3 and controlling it with the swell, and the difference isn't just that when the swell is at 0, you still hear sound. It's called swell/expression because it affects the sound way beyond volume. By the way you can adjust the behaviour of the pedal(s) in the menu.

Yeah I know i can adjust it but just by adding gain, the parameter doesn't go negative!
Thanks BTW, useful to know that!

[jack_zorz]

I have two FC7s connected to the NS3: one is the swell and the other I use for morphing. Note that it's not the same to morph the volume level of the B3 and controlling it with the swell, and the difference isn't just that when the swell is at 0, you still hear sound. It's called swell/expression because it affects the sound way beyond volume. By the way you can adjust the behaviour of the pedal(s) in the menu.

Yeah I know i can adjust it but just by adding gain, the parameter doesn't go negative!
Thanks BTW, useful to know that!

CTRLPedal Gain has nothing to do with that, that parameter serves to adjust the response of the CtrlPed input if a pedal resistor is not exactly following the specs and does not swing to 100%.

The key point here instead is that "Swell" and "Control Pedal" are 2 distinct functions on the Nord Stage, even if you can assign them at the same time to a single physical pedal connected to the CtrlPed input.

Swell applies only to Organs and in the B3 emulation, to keep it faithful to the original, it does not switch off volume at minimum position (it also affects the B3 sound harmonic content when moving it from 0 to 100%).

CtrlPed instead is used as a Morph Source and as such it can also control the Organ Volume (if you need it to)

So if you want B3 volume to go off when having the pedal at minimum, you can use the CtrlPed to Morph its volume from 0 to 100% (or any max value you want).

[Hlaalu]

Thanks max for having better worded that than what I did

[jack_zorz]

Well, the 'Stage' theme came from me. jack_zorz has the Electro 6, so only one control pedal to cover all.

[jack_zorz]

Well, the 'Stage' theme came from me. jack_zorz has the Electro 6, so only one control pedal to cover all.

Thanks FZiegler, I missed that, in that case jack_zorz has to accept that on NE6 the Organ only supports the "Swell" when using the B3 emulation, as written on NE6 manual

CTRLPED (shift + octave shift Up) assigns an attached control pedal as volume control for the organ section. With the B3/B3 Bass models it functions as a traditional swell pedal which also changes the character of the sound when the rotary speaker drive is used.