Discuss other brands keyboards, synthesizers, modules, software, controllers including how they compare or work with the Nords.

Re: What a a good idea!

Postby Quai34 » 09 May 2018, 11:31

derrellpiper wrote:Don't hate me because I got rid of the Stage 3. I still have a Lead 3 and Rack 3 and I just sold a 3P today, so I'm obviously friendly... :-)


Don't worry, I don't hate you, as you see, I tend to collect so, when I see people selling something, I wonder "how they do that? I couldn't..."
And I saw the Lead 3, people have so many time said that it was not a real lead, which I don't know if it's true or not, that you might a real Nord lover....To keep the one that is more often called "sterile/cold/etc..."

I'm even planning to rebuild the studio that is currently empty instruments wise, due to the fact that I've Been gigging a lot and cannot afford a Mac ( PC is 11 years old, ok, the Mac is here, hidden in the closet waiting for some cash coming as a trade with my wife for a new roof, to make it plugged and rolling...officially...).
So, just hardware plugged all through 2 Mackie Onyx and patcbays but nothing to record, because no computer....I had to give them back to my former university the first day I pressed recorded to see if all was working, yes it was.... plan involves a Kawai mp11 SE as it will be still be cheaper than a real Kawai Grand, a stage 3 Compact on top and maybe nothing else.... Because the schematic you saw has never been completely implemented, not enough room to record bass or guitar or singers...., Just room to allow space for two set of 3 tiers, no more L Shape like you say on picture but U Shape, each set ok keys In front of each one and with the base of the U, all processing hardware, computer, mixers and monitors...

Imagine what I've done with 7 pedals I was using in the past for all synths plus few promo and a lot of schematics and soldering: A crazy 13 units guitar pedals PEDALBOARD for my guitarist that he uses... I couldn't part with them so, I made use of them....
Stage 2/C2/NL2X+TC Pedals, 2XMatrix, EMU P2K, TX802, DSI P8/Tetra+H9, P12+TC HoF, D50+PG1000, XV5080,AX keytar, Streichfett, Drumbrute.Ibanez SR1200 & 2605 basses, Artstar AS153,G&L L2000,Legacy HSS,Asat Blueboys,Asat Deluxe Savanna.genelec 8040A.
User avatar
Quai34
 
Posts: 1874
Joined: 01 Jan 2012, 23:02
Location: CANADA WINNIPEG
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 114 times
Been thanked: 305 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 2
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Lead 1/2/2x

Re: What a a good idea!


Sponsor
 

Re: What a a good idea!

Postby Quai34 » 09 May 2018, 11:36

Well after all that a bit out of Original Topic, for the moment, I'm not planning to buy the Prophet X, I found a Drumbrute at 400 Can$ will will help us practice when my drummer won't be here, do Claps and other beats to add on certain songs, and as there is a separate output for the metronome, well, my drummer will have just to play n the click of each songs that requires a real tight temp....And It could trigger some smaples from the armorers that I have....
Finally found a way to still NOT to have a computer live, hardware only and having NOT to do the claps or Congas on my own...
Drummers' duties back to drummer....
Last edited by Quai34 on 09 May 2018, 11:37, edited 1 time in total.
Stage 2/C2/NL2X+TC Pedals, 2XMatrix, EMU P2K, TX802, DSI P8/Tetra+H9, P12+TC HoF, D50+PG1000, XV5080,AX keytar, Streichfett, Drumbrute.Ibanez SR1200 & 2605 basses, Artstar AS153,G&L L2000,Legacy HSS,Asat Blueboys,Asat Deluxe Savanna.genelec 8040A.
User avatar
Quai34
 
Posts: 1874
Joined: 01 Jan 2012, 23:02
Location: CANADA WINNIPEG
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 114 times
Been thanked: 305 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 2
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Lead 1/2/2x

Re: What a a good idea!

Postby derrellpiper » 09 May 2018, 19:52

Quai34 wrote:plan involves a Kawai mp11 SE as it will be still be cheaper than a real Kawai Grand, a stage 3 Compact on top and maybe nothing else...


I'm also considering a VPC or MP11 to replace the Stage. I suppose the Roland RD2000 is also worthy of consideration if you want sounds onboard. I can't decide if I do. That's also what's going on here. Part of me just wants to buy the best physical keybed I can and be done with it. So many great choices. We live in wonderful synth times!
Linnstrument, Pro 3 SE, Tempest, Prophet 10 & 12, Synclavier Regen, Cirklon 2, Torso T-1, Max/Ableton/Push 3, Kawai MP11SE, Pioneer Pro XDJ-XZ.
derrellpiper
 
Posts: 226
Joined: 11 Aug 2016, 19:12
Location: San Rafael, CA
Country: United States of America
Has thanked: 23 times
Been thanked: 42 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Lead 3

Re: What a a good idea!

Postby derrellpiper » 09 May 2018, 23:33

IMG_5554.JPG
IMG_5554.JPG (2.11 MiB) Viewed 2688 times

Here's my current setup. The Stage 3 88 was sitting where the chair is today. There's a MacBook behind the Tiffany lamp running Ableton Live and the MOTU interfaces. The minimoog and rev2 are roughly at a piano height for that chair, otherwise I tend to play everything standing up when it's all on. I tried a spider stand in the corner but it took up way too much room for just two, the 90 degree angle with the K&M Omega stands works better. I may replace the desk with something that will hold an 88 note keyboard, but behind the chair is a nice view, so I prefer to have the piano / MIDI controller there. The Lead 3 is in another room with wireless MIDI (Panda Audio) and wireless audio (Outlaw Audio), so it's connected to Ableton Live. The Lead 3 is here:
IMG_5556.JPG
IMG_5556.JPG (2.19 MiB) Viewed 2675 times
Last edited by derrellpiper on 10 May 2018, 03:35, edited 8 times in total.
Linnstrument, Pro 3 SE, Tempest, Prophet 10 & 12, Synclavier Regen, Cirklon 2, Torso T-1, Max/Ableton/Push 3, Kawai MP11SE, Pioneer Pro XDJ-XZ.
derrellpiper
 
Posts: 226
Joined: 11 Aug 2016, 19:12
Location: San Rafael, CA
Country: United States of America
Has thanked: 23 times
Been thanked: 42 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Lead 3

Re: What a a good idea!

Postby Quai34 » 10 May 2018, 07:08

derrellpiper wrote:
Quai34 wrote:plan involves a Kawai mp11 SE as it will be still be cheaper than a real Kawai Grand, a stage 3 Compact on top and maybe nothing else...


I'm also considering a VPC or MP11 to replace the Stage. I suppose the Roland RD2000 is also worthy of consideration if you want sounds onboard. I can't decide if I do. That's also what's going on here. Part of me just wants to buy the best physical keybed I can and be done with it. So many great choices. We live in wonderful synth times!


Not sure about the RD2000...I tried it in a store and was not astonished, I'm not sure if it was a lot better than a stage 2, a bit "spongy", not as tight as a real piano....The stage 2 is good for me for rock and soft/medium tempo jazz but,for fast Boogie Wooggie or fast technical classical piece, I miss the return of the key....Cannot do it on my stage compared to a grand Piano....
And I haven't tried the VPC1 nor the MP11 either but someone who tried both on this forum tends to think that the MP11 is a bit better....And I'm trying not to have a computer to rely on for sounds so....I don't want to have to open mine if. Just want to play...
Yes, great view, congrats, my sister lives in SF, if I plan to go down a bit along the cost, I might pass by to say hello....And to check your new Prophet X...
I'm planning to buy one Panda Midi for my Keytar and I'm glad you talked about it, it comforts me to the fact that it's a real good product.
I was always looking for a wireless audio because having wireless midi but still cables for a Keytar is a bit useless but I've never heard about the brand you have, I will have a look at it, thanks...
Stage 2/C2/NL2X+TC Pedals, 2XMatrix, EMU P2K, TX802, DSI P8/Tetra+H9, P12+TC HoF, D50+PG1000, XV5080,AX keytar, Streichfett, Drumbrute.Ibanez SR1200 & 2605 basses, Artstar AS153,G&L L2000,Legacy HSS,Asat Blueboys,Asat Deluxe Savanna.genelec 8040A.
User avatar
Quai34
 
Posts: 1874
Joined: 01 Jan 2012, 23:02
Location: CANADA WINNIPEG
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 114 times
Been thanked: 305 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 2
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Lead 1/2/2x

Re: What a a good idea!

Postby Quai34 » 10 May 2018, 07:11

And music theory book close to a keyboard with short cut stickers for Abelton on it, good....
Stage 2/C2/NL2X+TC Pedals, 2XMatrix, EMU P2K, TX802, DSI P8/Tetra+H9, P12+TC HoF, D50+PG1000, XV5080,AX keytar, Streichfett, Drumbrute.Ibanez SR1200 & 2605 basses, Artstar AS153,G&L L2000,Legacy HSS,Asat Blueboys,Asat Deluxe Savanna.genelec 8040A.
User avatar
Quai34
 
Posts: 1874
Joined: 01 Jan 2012, 23:02
Location: CANADA WINNIPEG
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 114 times
Been thanked: 305 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 2
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Lead 1/2/2x

Re: What a a good idea!

Postby Puukka » 10 May 2018, 08:28

Hope, DSI will manage their problems with jumpy encoders, still to be found at Rev-2 synths, I´m also a bit dissapointed by the wobbly knobs, Nord and Korg (Minilogue, Prologue...) can do much better.

Kind regards,
Herbert
User avatar
Puukka
Patch Creator
 
Posts: 90
Joined: 08 Jun 2017, 21:45
Location: Krems an der Donau
Country: Austria
Has thanked: 40 times
Been thanked: 121 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Lead A1

Re: What a a good idea!

Postby derrellpiper » 10 May 2018, 19:37

I haven't tried the RD2000 but it keeps coming up in discussions with the VPC and MP11, though I'm not particularly inclined to find one. I guess I'll look at the MP11 a little closer. It's also dawning on me, slowly, that piano and MIDI controller are really different things, thinking about the time-based aftertouch in the SL88 Grand; I suppose it's unreasonable to expect something that does both well. I am trying to learn piano, so that's another vote for Kawai.

The MIDI Beams work well, just remember to turn off the transmitter when you're done, it's not smart enough to power itself down. The receiver has USB power so it's not a problem. Mine's probably 10m (30') away through lots of glass. I'm using Outlaw Audio OAW4 for the wireless audio. They work, but both sides require USB power. I had them sitting around for home audio and tried them just for fun. With a second laptop running Apple Remote Desktop, I can even control Ableton from the room with the Lead 3. There's no real point to doing this, it's just an excuse to play with toys. I mostly use the Lead 3 on headphones.

Another keybed I like, which I throw out just as a data point, is the Korg SV-1. It's not graded and I don't know if it's a triple sensor (and rather doubt it because all it says is weighted hammer action), but it feels really nice to play and the EP voices in the SV-1 are very warm. Another thing I'd be tempted to pick up if I had enough space.

End of day ramblings: I'm coming around on the Kawai MP11SE. I think that might be my Stage replacement. I'm back to loving the rev2/16, what was I thinking? Also, it's time to get the Planet Earth back on the new MOTUs.
Last edited by derrellpiper on 11 May 2018, 16:07, edited 16 times in total.
Linnstrument, Pro 3 SE, Tempest, Prophet 10 & 12, Synclavier Regen, Cirklon 2, Torso T-1, Max/Ableton/Push 3, Kawai MP11SE, Pioneer Pro XDJ-XZ.
derrellpiper
 
Posts: 226
Joined: 11 Aug 2016, 19:12
Location: San Rafael, CA
Country: United States of America
Has thanked: 23 times
Been thanked: 42 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Lead 3

Re: What a a good idea!

Postby Quai34 » 11 May 2018, 09:24

Great for the Kawai MP11 SE, I will Have one guy trying it for me....Well, it's a bit égocentrique what I just said!?
What do you mean by 5V adaptaters?
Ok thanks for the Panda Midi, I was almost sold on this one...
Haha, I told you about the Rev2, I like so much my P08 that I can see why you love the Rev2.
Bye, thanks for the good discussion...
Stage 2/C2/NL2X+TC Pedals, 2XMatrix, EMU P2K, TX802, DSI P8/Tetra+H9, P12+TC HoF, D50+PG1000, XV5080,AX keytar, Streichfett, Drumbrute.Ibanez SR1200 & 2605 basses, Artstar AS153,G&L L2000,Legacy HSS,Asat Blueboys,Asat Deluxe Savanna.genelec 8040A.
User avatar
Quai34
 
Posts: 1874
Joined: 01 Jan 2012, 23:02
Location: CANADA WINNIPEG
Country: Canada
Has thanked: 114 times
Been thanked: 305 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 2
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Lead 1/2/2x

Re: What a a good idea!

Postby derrellpiper » 11 May 2018, 16:14

RE: 5V

The OAW4's have transformers that plug into the wall and each have an antenna. They're fine but I'd probably find something a little more ergonomic if I were using them all the time. They would also never survive touring, whereas the MIDI Beam is small enough to just velcro next to MIDI out.

I should add that I didn't check the latencies. I rather suspect OAW4 has some latency that the MIDI Beam does not, but I didn't try to measure it.
Last edited by derrellpiper on 13 May 2018, 01:37, edited 2 times in total.
Linnstrument, Pro 3 SE, Tempest, Prophet 10 & 12, Synclavier Regen, Cirklon 2, Torso T-1, Max/Ableton/Push 3, Kawai MP11SE, Pioneer Pro XDJ-XZ.
derrellpiper
 
Posts: 226
Joined: 11 Aug 2016, 19:12
Location: San Rafael, CA
Country: United States of America
Has thanked: 23 times
Been thanked: 42 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Lead 3

PreviousNext

Return to General Synthesizers/Keyboards Forum



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests