Discuss other brands keyboards, synthesizers, modules, software, controllers including how they compare or work with the Nords.

Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby Ivan Jochner » 22 Apr 2019, 22:01

analogika wrote:
Ivan Jochner wrote:( But i am still SHOKED that so " powerfull" Synth section in NS 3 SUCKS when it comes to recreate such Synth Brass , requiring sampling....((((

Dude.

You’re talking about an MKS-70.

Might as well complain about the Stage 3 (or any other existing synth) being inadequate at reproducing a Memorymoog, or a CS-80.


Nope, its still the MKS -80.

( I know what you mean, but as always its disered to have all in one))
Patchmaker
Nord Stage 3 Compact /Yamaha Motif XS 7
Yamaha MODX 7 / (past gear) Roland Integra
User avatar
Ivan Jochner
Patch Creator
 
Posts: 380
Joined: 14 Aug 2018, 20:30
Location: Vinnitsa /Ukraine
Country: Ukraine
Has thanked: 116 times
Been thanked: 284 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Other Brand

Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS


Sponsor
 

Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby analogika » 22 Apr 2019, 22:30

Sorry. Typo (maybe auto-correct; I tend to mention the 70 fairly often, as I own two of them).
The Nord giveth; the Nord taketh away…
"The Angels of Libra are in the European vanguard of the [retro soul] movement“ (Bill Buckley, Soul and Jazz and Funk)
The Drawbars — off jazz organ trio
User avatar
analogika
 
Posts: 3288
Joined: 21 Nov 2013, 10:02
Country: Germany
Has thanked: 1126 times
Been thanked: 1398 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 2
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Stage 3

Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby DJKeys » 23 Apr 2019, 00:35

On the Stage 3, that sound would require both synthesis and samples.

In my experience, most really great sounds from the Stage Keyboards are a combination of both.

-dj
Last edited by DJKeys on 23 Apr 2019, 00:37, edited 2 times in total.

Nord Stage 3
Nord Wave 2
Yamaha U3
iMac i7 13.5.2
Studio One 5.5.2
Nektar T4
Drawmer DL 241
Focusrite ISA Two
Focusrite Clarett 8 Pre

The author DJKeys was thanked by:
pablomastodon
User avatar
DJKeys
Patch Creator
 
Posts: 2023
Joined: 11 Apr 2011, 17:11
Location: Las Vegas
Country: United States of America
Has thanked: 407 times
Been thanked: 810 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Wave 2

Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby DJKeys » 23 Apr 2019, 00:39

Ivan Jochner wrote:( But i am still SHOKED that so " powerfull" Synth section in NS 3 SUCKS when it comes to recreate such Synth Brass , requiring sampling....((((


This is not true at all in my opinion.

-dj

Nord Stage 3
Nord Wave 2
Yamaha U3
iMac i7 13.5.2
Studio One 5.5.2
Nektar T4
Drawmer DL 241
Focusrite ISA Two
Focusrite Clarett 8 Pre
User avatar
DJKeys
Patch Creator
 
Posts: 2023
Joined: 11 Apr 2011, 17:11
Location: Las Vegas
Country: United States of America
Has thanked: 407 times
Been thanked: 810 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Wave 2

Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby DJKeys » 23 Apr 2019, 02:49

Here is a quick patch for you. You can tweak it to taste for your band.

Does it have the panache attack of the Roland? no. Does it use any samples? No (not sure why you are opposed to this, as it is a powerful part of the NS3 Synth engine). Will any audience care about the difference? I doubt it.

Glad I don't have to play this song!



Horns.ns3f
(592 Bytes) Downloaded 168 times
Attachments
Horn.mp3
(643.45 KiB) Downloaded 5198 times
Last edited by DJKeys on 23 Apr 2019, 16:58, edited 1 time in total.

Nord Stage 3
Nord Wave 2
Yamaha U3
iMac i7 13.5.2
Studio One 5.5.2
Nektar T4
Drawmer DL 241
Focusrite ISA Two
Focusrite Clarett 8 Pre

The author DJKeys was thanked by:
pablomastodon
User avatar
DJKeys
Patch Creator
 
Posts: 2023
Joined: 11 Apr 2011, 17:11
Location: Las Vegas
Country: United States of America
Has thanked: 407 times
Been thanked: 810 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Wave 2

Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby Ivan Jochner » 23 Apr 2019, 11:41

DJKeys wrote:Here is a quick patch for you. You can tweak it to taste for your band.

Does it have the panache attack of the Roland? no. Does it use any samples? No. Will any audience care about the difference? I doubt it.

Glad I don't have to play this song!



Horns.ns3f


Thanks for help anyway, but Nord is miles away from what it shoud sound like proper Synth Brass))
P.S. But people do care what it sounds like, at least in my band.
I have got proper "Final " Brass on my Motif xs, and some samples made on Jx8P, but my aim was to use just NS 3 Synth section without samples.


Cheers to all!
Last edited by Ivan Jochner on 23 Apr 2019, 11:45, edited 1 time in total.
Patchmaker
Nord Stage 3 Compact /Yamaha Motif XS 7
Yamaha MODX 7 / (past gear) Roland Integra
User avatar
Ivan Jochner
Patch Creator
 
Posts: 380
Joined: 14 Aug 2018, 20:30
Location: Vinnitsa /Ukraine
Country: Ukraine
Has thanked: 116 times
Been thanked: 284 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Other Brand

Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby analogika » 23 Apr 2019, 11:57

Ivan Jochner wrote:( But i am still SHOKED that so " powerfull" Synth section in NS 3 SUCKS when it comes to recreate such Synth Brass , requiring sampling....((((

FWIW, Joey Tempest mentioned that they used ELEVEN synths for the original „Final Countdown“, so I’m not sure it counts against the Stage 3 to need samples to get there.

https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars ... own-640575
The Nord giveth; the Nord taketh away…
"The Angels of Libra are in the European vanguard of the [retro soul] movement“ (Bill Buckley, Soul and Jazz and Funk)
The Drawbars — off jazz organ trio

The author analogika was thanked by:
Ivan Jochner
User avatar
analogika
 
Posts: 3288
Joined: 21 Nov 2013, 10:02
Country: Germany
Has thanked: 1126 times
Been thanked: 1398 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 2
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Stage 3

Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby Schorsch » 23 Apr 2019, 12:19

Ivan Jochner wrote:P.S. But people do care what it sounds like, at least in my band.


Yes agree - people DO care also when my band is playing, both the audience and the band mates (especially our drummer ....)


Ivan Jochner wrote:I have got proper "Final " Brass on my Motif xs, and some samples made on Jx8P, but my aim was to use just NS 3 Synth section without samples.

.. which are both sample based like the NS3 will have to be as well for this, the Nord Stage does not compare to a synth engine like a Jupiter-8 provides.
Regards Schorsch

Want to convert programs between NS2 and NS3?
Check this awesome website to visually view NS2/3 programs and re-create them on the other instrument!


Gear: NS3C, NS3 88, KeyLargo, Vent II ..

The author Schorsch was thanked by:
Ivan Jochner
User avatar
Schorsch
Donator
 
Posts: 2229
Joined: 15 May 2018, 23:34
Location: Germany - NRW
Country: Germany
Has thanked: 1229 times
Been thanked: 803 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Stage 3

Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby Ivan Jochner » 23 Apr 2019, 18:06



(A bit by bit will be shaping this sound to original, MKS 80 Brass patch).

Here are some files if someone needs it for collection.

(MKS 80 sample+ NS 3 original French Horns sample+ Program)
Attachments
FINAL MKS BRASS.ns3f
(592 Bytes) Downloaded 189 times
French Horns 2 Leg_KH 3.0.nsmp3
(3.22 MiB) Downloaded 149 times
FINAL MKS 80.nsmp3
(3.84 MiB) Downloaded 206 times
MKS 80 - BRASS FINAL.mp3
(477.84 KiB) Downloaded 5535 times
Last edited by Ivan Jochner on 23 Apr 2019, 18:33, edited 1 time in total.
Patchmaker
Nord Stage 3 Compact /Yamaha Motif XS 7
Yamaha MODX 7 / (past gear) Roland Integra

The author Ivan Jochner was thanked by 2 members, including:
chriskeysBerretje
User avatar
Ivan Jochner
Patch Creator
 
Posts: 380
Joined: 14 Aug 2018, 20:30
Location: Vinnitsa /Ukraine
Country: Ukraine
Has thanked: 116 times
Been thanked: 284 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Other Brand

Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby maxpiano » 23 Apr 2019, 18:20

Ivan, I think you should read the Roland Cloud policy (section d bullet e)...
Last edited by maxpiano on 23 Apr 2019, 18:20, edited 1 time in total.

The author maxpiano was thanked by:
Ivan Jochner
User avatar
maxpiano
Patch Creator
 
Posts: 6187
Joined: 27 Jun 2011, 13:29
Location: Italy
Country: Italy
Has thanked: 441 times
Been thanked: 2177 times
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3

PreviousNext

Return to General Synthesizers/Keyboards Forum



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests