ApolloSynths wrote:It doesn't have the Nord buttons that are literally the most perfect buttons in the world. I'll pass.
Even the metal levers? I think they are really nice.
ApolloSynths wrote:It doesn't have the Nord buttons that are literally the most perfect buttons in the world. I'll pass.
Elias wrote:Even the metal levers? I think they are really nice.
PScooter63 wrote:But at the end of the day, a ROMpler is still a ROMpler.
ajstan wrote:As far as I can tell, there is no ability to load samples, or create new sounds with the synth engine
ApolloSynths wrote:It doesn't have the Nord buttons that are literally the most perfect buttons in the world.
Spider wrote:Yes, this is basically an Electro with arguably a better synth section (if only for the mod-pitch controls)
dmamfmgm wrote:It seemed to me that, for a demo, they spent a massive amount of time doing these really quick, impossible-to-judge sound bites of the instrument. Then they'd cut it off before you could really hear it or get to know it. Then you'd listen to someone talk for a while. Then another quick sound bite...I don't think Yamaha understands their audience very well. Just my opinion.
ajstan wrote:Within the Yamaha line, other than the Organ you can get everything else with exponentially greater flexibility and functionality in a MODX6 for $1,399 and add a dedicated organ module for a similar total price.
LewTheKeysGuy wrote:it's basically a cheaper CP88 / CP73 which was teased as the Stage 3 killer
LewTheKeysGuy wrote:electro 6-61 is cheaper
Tracii wrote:If I was in the market for an organ-centric all-in-1 light-weight board, however, it'd be serious competition.
Rusty Mike wrote:61 keys is a bit too cramped for an all-in-one instrument. Let's see if they come out with a 73/76 waterfall version.
ajstan wrote:I could be missing something and future updates could add new capabilities, but IMHO, I'm not seeing how this is worth 2x the price of a VR09 or 90% of an Electro 6.
cphollis wrote:I think Yamaha is going to sell a bunch of them, simply because it looks like a competent instrument from Yamaha.
catosim wrote:Hope for success for Yamaha and their YC61. Ím Still sticking with my NS3
anotherscott wrote:ajstan wrote:As far as I can tell, there is no ability to load samples, or create new sounds with the synth engine
You're right that there's no ability to load samples or create new synth sounds, but the YC has a different feature that can fill that role... it includes a 4-zone MIDI controller function. Electro 6 doesn't have anything like that. Unlike on the Nord, the YC lets you split its internal sounds with external sounds (and otherwise configure the settings for which external sound you might want to split/layer with its own sounds), so if you want other synth sounds or custom samples, you can add them via MIDI (e.g. from an iPhone/iPad, and/or a hardware synth like a Roland Boutique module, etc.). It actually out-does the NS3 here, with 4 external MIDI sections instead of 2, though Nord's are easier to configure (on the YC, these functions require menu diving).
anotherscott wrote:ajstan wrote:Within the Yamaha line, other than the Organ you can get everything else with exponentially greater flexibility and functionality in a MODX6 for $1,399 and add a dedicated organ module for a similar total price.
Sound-wise, you're right. But you could similarly ask why someone would buy an Electro 6 when you can get "exponentially greater flexibility and functionality in a MODX6 for $1,399 and add a dedicated organ module for a similar total price." As Nord shows and Yamaha has apparently learned, there is a market who will pay more for a board with simpler and more immediate operational ergonomics.
anotherscott wrote:ajstan wrote:I could be missing something and future updates could add new capabilities, but IMHO, I'm not seeing how this is worth 2x the price of a VR09 or 90% of an Electro 6.
Benefits over Nord include the above mentioned synth functions, MIDI controller features, additional patch select buttons, and FM synth sounds, other advantages over the Nord include (presumably) multi-velocity-layered sounds for things other than pianos, what looks like a clever drawbar design that combines the physical drawbars with LED indicators, more flexibility in splits/layers (combine any two sounds from any section, choose any split point), and more flexibility in effects (more total effects, more combinations available, separate amount and rate controls). Remaining Nord advantages include the ability to use stereo out as dual mono outs (organ out one side), custom sample loading, pipe organ emulation, and downloadable alternate pianos and other sounds. Action comparison remains to be seen. And picking up from something I said above, using an iPhone/iPad, I can add other sounds to the Yamaha if needed, but there's no way to add pitch/mod controls or some of the other Yamaha benefits to the Nord.
Compared to the VR-09, Yamaha benefits include at least these: more flexibility in splits/layers (more than two sounds), effects (different sounds can have different effects), MIDI (4-zone controller and drawbars that send CC, among other things), FM sounds, specific Vox and Farfisa emulations (Roland has a generic "transistor" organ that doesn't actually emulate either), ability to have the sound instantly reflect the drawbar positions, and almost certainly better action. Roland has full VA synth editable via iPad, and is best priced.
Both Roland and Nord also have the advantage of being offered with alternate actions.
CountFosco wrote:anotherscott wrote:but I think the YC sounds really nice here...
If I could play that solo from 5:40 one time in my life, I would die happy.
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