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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro

Postby ajstan » 10 Jan 2020, 20:21

This looked like a neat new piece of equipment so I took a look at the manual. I think I may be missing something:
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/music_p ... oduct-tabs

I see the following:
Organs: 3 VC organs and 3 FM organs
Pianos: 3 Grand APs, 1 Upright AP, 2 Electric Grands, 2 Layer Pianos,
E Pianos: 5 Rhodes, 3 Wurli, 3 Clav, 7 FM
Synth: 113 Sounds from all categories

As far as I can tell, there is no ability to load samples, or create new sounds with the synth engine. You can only add effects and splits/layers, change the ADR and save to a Live Set. Live sets can be backed up and restored, but not sounds.

With a street price $1,999 (only $200 less than an Electro), I guess the appeal will be for those who definitively prefer the built-in sounds and want pitch-bend and modulation controls.

Within the Yamaha line, other than the Organ you can get everything else with exponentially greater flexibility and functionality in a MODX6 for $1,399 and add a dedicated organ module for a similar total price.

Again, I could be missing something and future updates could add new capabilities, but IMHO, I'm not seeing how this is worth 2x the price of a VR09 or 90% of an Electro 6.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro

Postby Rusty Mike » 10 Jan 2020, 20:41

The architecture is a *little bit* closer to what I’d like to see Nord create: an upper tier keyboard with organ and synth (lead/pad) sections. Not necessarily putting these features in an Electro, but more like adding mashing a Lead and organ together with a 5 or 6 octave waterfall key action.

However, the organ on the YC sounds glassy to me, and I don’t generally like Yamaha’s approach to user interfaces, despite their attempt to copy Nord in this regard.

Nice to see Yamaha finally get into the clone game, but not compelling enough for me to dump my Stage or Electro.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro

Postby cphollis » 10 Jan 2020, 21:50

I think Yamaha is going to sell a bunch of them, simply because it looks like a competent instrument from Yamaha. I also think Nord (Clavia) is thinking about their next move to put more distance between the YC and the next Nord Electro.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro

Postby ApolloSynths » 10 Jan 2020, 22:14

It doesn't have the Nord buttons that are literally the most perfect buttons in the world. I'll pass.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro

Postby alex78 » 10 Jan 2020, 23:37

Almost Copy-Paste....They forgot just a small detail: to paint it red!!! :lol:
Sonicaly, it is more "digital sounding" far from the warm, organic sound of a Nord. As for the promotional video, they are certainly trying enter the Nord territory. Not likely to catch many fish IMO.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro

Postby Tracii » 12 Jan 2020, 13:31

That synth section filter knob is the one thing I miss on my Electros - using the eq to simulate it is a workaround that can be inadequate at times.

Other than that, I see nothing that would make me switch sides. If I was in the market for an organ-centric all-in-1 light-weight board, however, it'd be serious competition.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro

Postby ACCORDIONMAN » 12 Jan 2020, 17:19

Competition is good!
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro

Postby Rusty Mike » 12 Jan 2020, 17:46

61 keys is a bit too cramped for an all-in-one instrument. Let's see if they come out with a 73/76 waterfall version.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro

Postby Elias » 12 Jan 2020, 18:20

ApolloSynths wrote:It doesn't have the Nord buttons that are literally the most perfect buttons in the world. I'll pass.


Even the metal levers? I think they are really nice.
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Re: New Yamaha YC 61 vs Nord Electro

Postby Guidos656 » 23 Jan 2020, 12:29

Elias wrote:Even the metal levers? I think they are really nice.


I do like those metal levers. Like piloting a jet plane! :lol:
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