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Re: Do you use a drums machine?

Postby Quai34 » 08 Mar 2018, 05:40

Ok. Thanks....Yes, for Band In a Box, I will see later but the two other little Apps seem to be good and I agree for the sound, even from my ipad with no connection to a PA this evening, it was nice...
Thanks again, I will let you know how it goes....
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Re: Do you use a drums machine?

Postby Quai34 » 25 Mar 2018, 11:20

AdamStage2 wrote:I used to have several Drum machines around in the mid/Late 80s as they were quite essential back in my early days before playing in a band and really the only source of tight drums without having to result to very expensive and limited sequencers all the time

I like to keep at least one Drum machine in my gear these days to lay down beats for fun without having to program a fully sequenced track,these days I use a Dave Smith Tempest for synthetic drums,and also use the Drum Track on the Korg Kronos for more acoustic sounds,I love to just make some 4 bar drum loops and just jam with my Nords.

I do also have an Akai MPC4000 which I use for sequencing/Drum programming when I need to add all the other musical elements to make a song,but sometimes it is really great fun just to hit play on the Kronos drum track or Tempest and just jam away without any preconceived ideas or direction of where to go musically,I've lost many hours doing that just jamming away and come up with really great songs as a result of just playing on the fly,its also a great way to practice and improve your keyboard licks and getting a feel for different playing styles/Grooves

I think it would be great for Nord to introduce a drum track parameter on their Nord stage line,much like the Kronos has where by you can save a Drum loop with each program and then just play the loop to jam along with,its great fun for jamming and thrashing out new ideas/Riffs and getting a feel for a songs tempo/Groove without having to sit down and try and write a track,I find jamming on the fly along to a drum track/Loop so inspirational.


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Thanks a lot for your inputs....The tempest "tempted" me, but I'm using for the moment the Apps proposed in this post....By the way, the Tempest has factory loop/tracks or do you have to enter everything?
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Re: Do you use a drums machine?

Postby Quai34 » 26 Mar 2018, 10:25

Ok, thanks a lot, I haven't programmed Bassline and drums since the Tr 808 area, I add the 606 and the MC202 with the SH101 but sold them to buy my D50....And TX802 and a Piano....Ok, I was working for Yamaha Music at that time so, easier to get "special prices"....
I spent some time on the Drumbrute from Arturia last time and for 450 Can$ (Second hands or destock I think....) I Was quite impressed by how easy it was to start doing something funny on it....But I might miss real samples, which is what the Tempest has and quite good ones I heard....
Ok, thanks again, I'm not in a hurry a anyway so....
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Re: Do you use a drums machine?

Postby Tracii » 26 Mar 2018, 10:54

I do: https://www.zoom-na.com/products/produc ... um-machine

Sure, it's nothing fancy, but it does the trick - I usually spend about 5 to 10 minutes programming a few patterns and arranging them into some kind of "song" and then I can jam for hours. :keyboard:

The bass track in particular was a real eye-opener to me! I play heavy rock music, so I don't usually lay down basslines with my left hand, which you kinda have to (well, I do :oops:) if you're playing by yourself. The Zoom allows me to play and practice the style that I use in a band situation.
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Re: Do you use a drums machine?

Postby Quai34 » 25 May 2018, 03:26

Hi Guys,
So, just an update for all you guys who helped me a lot...I've just received the used Drumbrute that I bought used for 450 CAN$ = 350 USD, so, I like it a lot, it has a real own personnality...I still have to read the manual and to have it sending note via midi to my Expanders to get "real" sampled sounds but it should be good at the end...
I have also listened to the new Aira R8 S, it sounded good but my opinion is that it's super oriented house/techno/drum and bass, I didn't find a lot of real samples for classic drumkit, maybe I didn't check it enough? I had the idea to have it and to synchronized the two drums machine but I'm not sure I will need all the 808/909/727/606 sounds...
I might try to listen to the Tempest but even used, it's 3 times more expensive...And I was abit scared last time I tried it...
Anyway, thanks again, just a bit of programming and all the Claps and extra percussions on songs that we do will be very good...And by the way, the metronome has an independant output, so, when I will start the drum machine, my drummer will have it as a click, so, all good...And I've given business to a french company on top of that, Yeahhh
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Re: Do you use a drums machine?

Postby Quai34 » 25 May 2018, 17:40

Yes, you're right, I had thought about it at first, not sure if I could synchronized it via midi clock though....
My goal is to program enough patterns to help my drummer when there is claps and extra percussions AND to have also real sounds when we practice without a drummer....
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Re: Do you use a drums machine?

Postby stiiiiiiive » 27 May 2018, 00:42

Cool, congrats! :)
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Re: Do you use a drums machine?

Postby Quai34 » 27 May 2018, 08:45

Thanks Steve, the links you provided to me to listen to your work was also a great help in my decision....I was not thinking at first to buy an analog machine but the fact that I liked a lot the way you could play/tweak the sounds and the way you did it on your different tracks with different bands was awesome...Thanks again....I just have to find a replacement for my drummer when he cannot be here....But the Drumbox will be used live for sure....
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Re: Do you use a drums machine?

Postby stiiiiiiive » 29 May 2018, 02:02

Oh thanks a lot, I'm so glad it helped and inspired :)
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Re: Do you use a drums machine?

Postby Quai34 » 10 Jun 2018, 09:26

Hi Guys,
So, haven't had the time to use it a lot, too much practicing with my two bands especially the new Funk/Dance one (well, already 14 Songs, programmed on synths and Bandhelper, learnt and almost ready to play in 3 months and without a drummer, so, not bad) but I'm still reading carefully the manual, page after page....I know, sorry, I always read the manuals so, I know I've seen something I want to do and know where to look for afterwards....
But I'm planning to use it live with the new drummer we finally found yesterday, he will have the metronome output as a click in his IEM....Or the Ipad output using Bandhelper for tempo as well....

So, question:
In a live situation, what are the individual outputs that you mainly treat with external effects? Is it Kick with compressor? If yes, which one?
Is it Claps/Snare with Reverb, if yes, which one?
When I ask which one, I'm thinking about a small form factor or rackmountable effects 1U, I don't want to bring the whole studio...
Hihat maybe? With what?
Just needing some guidance as you all did previously in this post and made me buy the Arturia Drumbrute....
Also, the DRUMBRUTE will be plugged into a Tascam mixer LM-8ST that has the second output used as a send to a TC Electronic M-One XL but I have a limited amount of spare inputs in it, on top of the master output off the drum brute.

I could eventually get 2 extra inputs, maybe 3, so a total of 3/4 inputs on the mixer for the drumbrute (as the ipad out won't be used live for playing, the TX802 could be skipped and the Ax Synth could be unplugged as I don't use it on every songs....).
Last infos, I don't have any insert on the Tascam so, if it's not an effect brought by the TC via the effect return, it has to be some kind of pedals to go between the individual outputs of the DRUMBRUTE and the input in the Tasacam mixer....In series in fact...And the TC is also,used to bring Reverb/Delay to the Prophet 12....But I don't use the Prohet 12 on every song as well....
Sorry for being that complicated...

Let me know what would be the ideal set up for you.
Thanks in advance.
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