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Re: White Grand

Postby Rychubil » 28 Jul 2019, 00:54

Hi Everyone!
Two days ago I visited music store and again I had opportunity to play on Nord Grand.
Big surprise was XL version of the "White Grand" sample already included on the Grand. Unfortunately, I didn't have my recorder with myself and I couldn't record anything - such a pity.

Anyway, White Grand sample for me is the best sample in every aspect. It's very universal in the colour of this sound. I think, it can be adapted to many musical genres. IMO, White Grand sample is not only the most beautiful in the colour but it's also very acoustical and inspired me very much - I couldn't get away from the instrument and every sound or chord on this sample provoked my imagination to create further chords and melodies.
Long time I didn't feel so great synergy between keyboard and sound like in this case. "White Grand" absolutely hypnotized me :o :keyboard:

Adiditionally Timbre function effectively increase a character of this sample, especially in the colour and articulation. The "soft" position gives incredibly impressionistic soft attack. The "medium" one, warms up the sound and releases the center frequencies a lot. The "bright" one gives a little bit a full concert grand piano kind of sound, especially at the bottom of keyboard range.
My additional observation about the White Grand sample. There is no characteristic noise on White Grand sample, which appears less or more on other grand/upright samples, while using the Timbre function set on Bright position.
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Re: White Grand

Postby fieldflower » 28 Jul 2019, 10:14

I'm still going back and forth with this one.
For playing solo piano or with band where the piano is dominant I prefer the White.
But any band song where the piano isn't dominant I prefer the Silver grand as I feel it cuts through much better.
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Re: White Grand

Postby Rychubil » 28 Jul 2019, 14:56

Nice example of WG sample with Pad:
https://youtu.be/vVQ6t-814LA?t=84
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Re: White Grand

Postby Rychubil » 08 Aug 2019, 02:23

maxpiano wrote:
Rychubil wrote:https://youtu.be/7UslxgeAhgg
Is it really nord sample?


You should ask the video author...

Absolutely right! I did it and I got the answer: "I sampled note by note of all keys of my Nord at various velocity layers and then the notes are edited and finally the samples are loaded into Kronos and the program edited on Kronos."
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Re: White Grand

Postby Schorsch » 08 Aug 2019, 16:24

Rychubil wrote:Absolutely right! I did it and I got the answer: "I sampled note by note of all keys of my Nord at various velocity layers and then the notes are edited and finally the samples are loaded into Kronos and the program edited on Kronos."


What a massive effort to get the White Grand on a Kronos, especially if one owns a Nord as well :o I wonder why someone spends that much time and energy on this, is the White Grand that much better than all of the Kronos pianos? Seems as if I made a good decision not to buy a Kronos but switch to Nord :)
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Re: White Grand

Postby MonkeyDonkey » 09 Aug 2019, 16:47

fieldflower wrote:I'm still going back and forth with this one.
For playing solo piano or with band where the piano is dominant I prefer the White.
But any band song where the piano isn't dominant I prefer the Silver grand as I feel it cuts through much better.


Interesting take. I've been using the Bright Grand where piano is dominant but Royal Grand (and occasionally even a Blue Suede) where it's not. But I've never been sure whether those are wise choices. Anyone have any opinions on how the White compares to the Bright when the piano is dominant in a rock/dance band? Or even when it's in the back and needs to come through a bit?
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Re: White Grand

Postby Rusty Mike » 09 Aug 2019, 17:25

I don't play in a rock band, so take this for what it's worth. Based on the sound profiles, I would speculate that the Royal Grand is too "full" sounding and may clash in the lower midrange with other instruments. I would offer that the Silver Grand, Bright Grand, Grand Upright and Black Upright work better in a rock context, as they can cut through but are rather well behaved in the lower midrange. The White Grand, with a bit of EQ treatment, would probably work as well.
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Re: White Grand

Postby harmonizer » 09 Aug 2019, 18:14

MonkeyDonkey: For solo playing at home, or for a sparse song like "Someone Like You", Royal Grand works great for me, even in my mono / single speaker setup. But I have not been able to make it work in our 7 person covers band - for me it does not cut through. In our 7 person covers band, it does not matter whether the piano part is dominant, or more of an accessory. In either case I need it to cut through without getting in the way of the other instruments.

I am a single speaker user (mono), so the other AP sounds shared by Rusty Mike (except the White Grand) do not work for me. If you are running in stereo (two speakers) they might work great for you (I have no experience with them in stereo).

I can't test the White Grand in my old Electro 3, but many here are saying it is really good even in mono.
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Re: White Grand

Postby Sparkle » 10 Aug 2019, 13:20

Hello,
I have the white piano on my nord grand, what can i say, cool piano, plenty of harmonics, cristallin sound, ok.
But, cause there is a but, in the mids, the sounds is too short, it it decays too quickly for me. If i compare with the royal, this one decays constantly, slowly.
I think the adsr of the beautiful white grand, is not good in the mids. It will be my best of pianos when updated for sure.
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Re: White Grand

Postby baekgaard » 10 Aug 2019, 14:36

Sparkle wrote:Hello,
I have the white piano on my nord grand, what can i say, cool piano, plenty of harmonics, cristallin sound, ok.
But, cause there is a but, in the mids, the sounds is too short, it it decays too quickly for me. If i compare with the royal, this one decays constantly, slowly.
I think the adsr of the beautiful white grand, is not good in the mids. It will be my best of pianos when updated for sure.
I think it is quite unlikely that it will be redone.

What you hear is probably a very faithful rendering of the actual instrument - which in my view has a beautiful tone.

But I guess there is no one perfect instrument that ticks all boxes for everyone.
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