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Re: What is missing in Rhodes sampling of the Nord?

Postby azwel » 15 Jul 2019, 21:35

They sound fine to me. Nord sampled a real rhodes, so it sounds just like one... WHat else do you need?
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Re: What is missing in Rhodes sampling of the Nord?

Postby kbmatson » 16 Jul 2019, 15:54

I'm very happy w/ Nord Rhodes. Played some Motif patches the other day - amazed how much better and REAL the Nord sounds.
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Re: What is missing in Rhodes sampling of the Nord?

Postby anotherscott » 18 Jul 2019, 16:23

azwel wrote:They sound fine to me. Nord sampled a real rhodes, so it sounds just like one... WHat else do you need?

Korg, Kurzweil, Yamaha, Casio, Kawai, etc. all sample real Rhodes... they're not all equally authentic to hear/play for a wide variety of reasons... plus there's personal taste, people can even prefer the sound of one real Rhodes over another. If sampling a real Rhodes was all you needed, Nord could get by with one Rhodes sample instead of over a dozen sample sets from about a half dozen different Rhodes (plus different EQs and a variety of amp emulations).

Ironically, perhaps, one of the highly regarded Rhodes emulations isn't even based on samples, there's the modeled Rhodes in the Crumar Seven/Gemini/Mojo61.
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Re: What is missing in Rhodes sampling of the Nord?

Postby Gambold » 18 Jul 2019, 17:57

We could also all ask ourselves why do we need all these authentic Rhodes sounds anyway. Very little modern music is using the Rhodes, and yeah, if we are playing the old stuff in a cover band it's nice to have one good emulation on hand, but it's also possible we've fetishized the mythical quest for the perfect Rhodes sample.

If one wants THE PERFECT RHODES SOUND that badly, then one can always buy a Rhodes. A good refurbished one (able to reach the lofty peaks in sound we are demanding here) will cost close to $3500:

http://chicagoelectricpiano.com/rhodes/ ... -stage-73/

A cheaper Rhodes will have lots of "character," which can be a catch-all word for dropped keys, mis-tuned bars, fritzy electronics, and shredded tolex:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Fender-Rh ... Sw-RFcdrsP

Hmm, suddenly the Nord is doing a fine job after all.
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Re: What is missing in Rhodes sampling of the Nord?

Postby AllanH » 19 Jul 2019, 01:54

Well said Gambold ! My background is with piano and I'm loving the Rhodes samples.
I've listened to the sound link from the Chicago Electric Piano shop which you posted... I'm curious as to the vamp demonstrated..sounds like a version of What'd I Say (Ray Charles)

Can anyone verify ? or enlighten me ?

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Re: What is missing in Rhodes sampling of the Nord?

Postby analogika » 19 Jul 2019, 04:19

Gambold wrote:We could also all ask ourselves why do we need all these authentic Rhodes sounds anyway. Very little modern music is using the Rhodes, and yeah, if we are playing the old stuff in a cover band it's nice to have one good emulation on hand, but it's also possible we've fetishized the mythical quest for the perfect Rhodes sample.

If one wants THE PERFECT RHODES SOUND that badly, then one can always buy a Rhodes. A good refurbished one (able to reach the lofty peaks in sound we are demanding here) will cost close to $3500:

http://chicagoelectricpiano.com/rhodes/ ... -stage-73/


My God, that sounds utterly wonderful.

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Re: What is missing in Rhodes sampling of the Nord?

Postby JayDee » 19 Jul 2019, 16:19

The tune in that Rhodes Sample is 'The Work Song" by Nat Adderly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rmXbiD3Jog

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Re: What is missing in Rhodes sampling of the Nord?

Postby anotherscott » 19 Jul 2019, 19:21

JayDee wrote:The tune in that Rhodes Sample is 'The Work Song" by Nat Adderly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rmXbiD3Jog

aka the "inspiration" for Locomotive Breath
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Re: What is missing in Rhodes sampling of the Nord?

Postby AllanH » 19 Jul 2019, 23:30

JayDee wrote:The tune in that Rhodes Sample is 'The Work Song" by Nat Adderly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rmXbiD3Jog

many thanks Jaydee
will add this to my range !

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Re: What is missing in Rhodes sampling of the Nord?

Postby Quai34 » 20 Jul 2019, 02:29

Whooo, the restauration is awesome.... Besides having a very nice sound, the joy to have a nice real, vintage instrument is part of the deal too....
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