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recording / Aufnahme

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Hallo zusammen,

ich bin neu hier und hoffe ich bin hier richtig. Und zwar habe ich seit neuem ein Nord Stage 3 und würde gerne mein gespieltes aufnehmen / bearbeiten. Habe mir das Handbuch durchgelesen aber nichs passendes gefunden. Jetzt habe ich die Frage wie das genau funktioniert, und was ich dazu alles benötige, ( Welche Schnittstelle, Einstellungen am Nord stage, Programm auf Pc ich benötige,...) ich hoffe das mir da jemand weiter helfen kann.


Viele Grüße .

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Hello everybody,

I'm new here and hope I'm right here. And although I have a new Nord Stage 3 and would like to record / edit my played. I've read through the manual but not found suitable. Now I have the question how exactly this works, and what I need to everything, (Which interface, settings on the North stage, program on PC I need, ...) I hope that someone can help me further.


Many Greetings .
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Re: recording / Aufnahme

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Hi,

I assume you want to record the audio signal of the Stage, not the midi messages, correct?

For audio recording the easiest and cheapest way is to connect the outputs of your Nord Stage to the audio input of your computer using a suitable adapter plug, install a simple to use software like Audacity or Audio Recorder as the recording software, configure it to use the main audio input of the computer as the signal source, start the recording and play.

If you want better quality recordings you need an external USB audio interface, connect the interface and your computer via USB and connect the Nord Stage outputs to the inputs of the sound interface. You may have to install additional drivers for the specific audio interface to get it working, then chose this one as the signal source in the recording software, start the recording and play.

Next level is a more sophisticated software for the recording, something like Reaper, Cubase, Logic, Ableton and others. These will provide a lot of additional options like multi track recording, effects which can be added, mixing and so on.

There are a number of tutorials on the internet about recording a keyboard into a computer, you may start with this one which is in German language: https://www.bonedo.de/artikel/einzelans ... ehmen.html

Best regards, Georg
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Check this https://chris55.github.io/ns3-program-viewer/ awesome tool to visualize NS2/3 programs and re-create them on the other instrument!

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Vielen Dank für die Schnelle Antwort hat mir schon sehr geholfen :thumbup:
Meine überlegung war auch von der Aufnahme wenn nötig Fehler zu verbessern ohne gleich nochmal das ganze Stück neu aufzunehmen,
ist das dann hinterher möglich über die externe audio schnittstelle und dem Programm Audacity oder brauch ich dafür schon die Programme (Reaper, Cubase, Logic, Ableton) ?

Viele Grüße


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Thanks for the quick answer helped me a lot: Thumbs up:
My consideration was also of the recording, ideal for improving errors without having to recapture the whole piece,
is that possible afterwards via external audio interface and the Audacity program or do I need the programs for that (Reaper, Cubase, Logic, Ableton)?

many Greetings
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Hi (answering in English only since this is the language used in this forum),

I am not an expert regarding the mentioned software in terms of modifying/improving recordings, I therefore suggest you give it a try (some of them are available as free-of-charge trial versions) or search a bit more on the internet about post-record modifications. Mybe we have other forum members who can give some additional answers or suggestions.

If you take read through the Bonedo workshop for which I have sent the link in my previous post you will find some links to similar topics at the bottom in the section called "Verwandte Artikel", these may lead to more information about this.

Bert regards
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Hi, if by "errors" you mean play/execution errors then you would do that on the Audio recording (in general), when you have the "luxury" of using a MIDI instrument; you need to work (record) MIDI data first and fix the errors at that level, then when you are OK you can playback the MIDI data and record the resulting audio.

To do this you need a DAW like the ones you mentioned (Logic, Ableton, Cubase, Reaper... or just GarageBand if you are on a Mac, or a free DAW like Tracktion T7)
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As max piano and Hervshahn points out, you can use a number of tools: some focus on recording Audio and others can also record and allow you to manipulate MIDI. MIDI can be recorded via USB or MIDI (I think you asked that).

In addition to the DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) tools mentioned already, there is also the open source Ardour.
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Super vielen dank an alle, habt mir damit sehr gehofen.

Viele Grüße :thanks:


Great Thanks to everyone, helped me a lot

many Greetings :thanks:
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If you want to record more often, maybe you can consider an interface like the Scarlett series from Focusrite. It functions as an audio and MIDI-interface.
It's very easy to setup and the quality is really good.
I use it for a few years now.
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Re: recording / Aufnahme

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B2TSF wrote: Thanks for the quick answer helped me a lot: Thumbs up:
My consideration was also of the recording, ideal for improving errors without having to recapture the whole piece,
is that possible afterwards via external audio interface and the Audacity program or do I need the programs for that (Reaper, Cubase, Logic, Ableton)?

many Greetings
Audacity unless it has changed recently cannot record or edit midi events. I highly recommend Reaper. Its midi capabilities (recording, editing, processing, mapping) are extensive and has a reasonable learning curve. Cubase, Pro Tools, Logic, etc. all would work as well I just personally do not like them. Used Cubase in the past and hate the workflow. I also use Pro Tools because some clients use it but, its expensive, always chasing bugs & clumsy with some things.

What I do when recording keyboards is connect both audio outputs (1/4" cables to audio interface) & 5-pin midi (also to interface), recording both together. Having a recorded audio track helps with listening to playback, playing the same keyboard along with playback, judging levels & comparing after midi edits. Then after having the MIDI tracks, if needed edit midi events to fix individual errors or just changed my mind of what works. Then I can re-record the audio tracks or wait until mixing tracks to capture audio.

The question of audio interface is dependent on whether you can or will use USB MIDI or 5-pin MIDI. If USB MIDI then almost any interface will work as you will be connecting your Nord directly to the computer for midi. If you need 5-pin MIDI then you need an interface that includes it. I use Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 which has 5-pin midi yet relatively inexpensive. The even cheaper Scarlett's I do not think have MIDI. You can spend twenty times that depending on other requirements you may or may not have. Be aware not all interfaces have 5-pin MIDI. My Antelope interface which cost like 15 times the price of the Focusrite does not have it. When using it I have to use a separate M-Audio MIDISPORT which is only a 5-pin midi interface, no audio and uses an extra USB port on my computer tho if you use USB MIDI it will use the same port on the computer.
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