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Wish List for Nord Keyboards

Postby MartinJ2EX » 24 Feb 2021, 20:27

Hello fellow Nord keyboard players!

Since we are now at a time when we are all extremely curious what some new Nord keyboard might bring, there are already many threads and posts about feature requests and speculations.
To sum everything up, I’ve compiled a big Wish List - some of you have already contributed great ideas! :yourock:
Update: The list now includes Wish Lists for existing Nord's updates (e.g. firmware updates / bug fixes for Stage 3)

Feel free to add your requests/suggestions, maybe the awesome fellas at Clavia will some of them useful and include them in a future Nord! :keyboard:
Looking forward to your ideas and what you would like to see/have!

Link to the Nord Wish List...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/ ... nKsVUDU1gQ

Please note: Feel free to add your wishes / software bug reports directly to the list, it is freely editable and it should be possible even without a Google account :)
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Re: Wish List for Future Nord Keyboards

Postby StrangeAeons » 25 Feb 2021, 12:16

We should mail Clavia that spreadsheet: they probably do check out this forum from time to time, but your work would greatly help them in case they actually wanted to hear some user feedback and requests without having to scroll through the whole website! I would change the title, though: it should simply be a "Nord wish list" without any reference to the upcoming Stage, as the Electro line too would greatly benefit from most of those suggestions.

I'll add a couple more requests: more Hammond models to choose from (along with improved C/V and Leslie simulations, and the dreaded 9th drawbar issue), an additional overdrive and dedicated, physical Clavinet tone controls, to be paired with an improved simulation (even though I personally play much more pianos and organs than Clavi, Nord could really up their game on that front, as there have never been dedicated digital clones, unlike the flourishing clonewheels market). In short what I'm saying is, Nord's pianos are excellent and the sample library's top-notch, but they need to improve on vintage instruments to keep being competitive, as they've been either surpassed (Hammond) or equalled (Rhodes and Wurly) in the recent years.

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Re: Wish List for Future Nord Keyboards

Postby Nico38 » 05 Mar 2021, 17:34

Hello, I am a new member.

For the future Nord electro 7, I would like it to include the following new features:

- The new cathedral reverb algorithm that we find in the Nord Wave 2 and which is beautiful (accompanied by Dark, Bright and Choral effect).
- the possibility of having attack and release (which we have for the samples section) for the piano section and also for the organ section
- the possibility of having for the organ section, a response to the velocity to the touch which would make this section very versatile (cool for worship music).
- the possibility of loading 2 different instruments in the samples section.
- an audio recorder on a USB key with the possibility of overdubbing
- a stereo input / output dedicated to the possibility of integrating an external effect

With all these new features, I would be the happiest owner of the Nord Electro 7.

Thank you for including my requests in the big Wish List

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Re: Wish List for Future Nord Keyboards

Postby BjoernFromEarth » 07 Mar 2021, 20:10

I would like Nord to add USB4/Thunderbolt4 and WiFi 6E to all future keyboards, thereby enabling lightning-fast transfers and updates.
Also, transfers just via USB-Stick without the need to bring the laptop should be possible (and FAST).

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Re: Wish List for Future Nord Keyboards

Postby colourisred » 08 Mar 2021, 00:45

I would like to see a more realistic simulation of stringresonances.
The implemented algorithm doesn't take already ringing tones into account
when the damper of a single tone is lifted.

On a real piano when for example the key C4 is pressed slowly down (so that the
hammer doesn't hit the strings) a short before pressed down and not released C5
lets the strings of C4 resonate in C5.
Result is that C5 is furthermore audible even though C5 key is released.
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Re: Wish List for Future Nord Keyboards

Postby Nico38 » 10 Mar 2021, 08:51

Thank you for including my requests in the Nord wishlist. I hope that Nord will release the Nord Electro 7 this year.
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Re: Wish List for Future Nord Keyboards

Postby nic cue » 10 Mar 2021, 14:58

Hello all,

personally, I think this wish list is a good idea!
But the question could also be : does we really need new models or just improved sounds to play for a few years yet with current models (for NE, NS, NP)?

For the NE (that i'm an owner): this keyboard line was acclaimed for his easyness of use. The current NE6 has already lot of functions (3 sound engines, that can be splitted or layered, transitions, etc...), when you see its evolution from NE2. Still a few new models, and it will be a workstation (quite the opposite of the original interest of this keyboard) or... a N. Stage!
Next to that, version 6 of nord piano library is relatively recent, just 1 acoustic piano and all rhodes (yes, it's not nothing!) . We could have a few new acoustics piano, and a revisted wurly for example... And why not an improved B3 (for the C/V and percussion) on the current machines?
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Re: Wish List for Future Nord Keyboards

Postby StrangeAeons » 10 Mar 2021, 19:37

nic cue wrote:Hello all,

personally, I think this wish list is a good idea!
But the question could also be : does we really need new models or just improved sounds to play for a few years yet with current models (for NE, NS, NP)?

For the NE (that i'm an owner): this keyboard line was acclaimed for his easyness of use. The current NE6 has already lot of functions (3 sound engines, that can be splitted or layered, transitions, etc...), when you see its evolution from NE2. Still a few new models, and it will be a workstation (quite the opposite of the original interest of this keyboard) or... a N. Stage!
Next to that, version 6 of nord piano library is relatively recent, just 1 acoustic piano and all rhodes (yes, it's not nothing!) . We could have a few new acoustics piano, and a revisted wurly for example... And why not an improved B3 (for the C/V and percussion) on the current machines?


Admittedly, Nord could do exactly what you described, just like when they updated the C2 with the C2D's newer simulation: that is, they could release updates for older Electro and Stage keyboards whilst releasing new models that focus on hardware improvements (e.g. more piano and sample memory, faster speed transfer, more polyphony etc). And yet, they never updated the Electro 4 with the 5's Hammond simulation, and the new White Grand Piano only runs on the latest Nord keyboards. It's a commercial strategy, imagine they release an Electro 7 with 2 GB of piano memory and 1 GB for samples, a bigger, colour screen and an improved B3, announcing that Electro 6's getting that B3 update too: they'd lose a lot of potential sales due to the fact that many will either buy a discounted or used Electro 6 as they probably don't care about the other new features.

And, once again, as you cleverly wrote, there isn't much more room for improvement before the Electro becomes a Stage. We've objectively reached a point where we've exploited the 80, maybe 90% of a current digital emulation technologies' full potential. There's room for improvement and every maker has its strongpoints (I vastly prefer Nord's pianos over Korg's, but Crumar and Viscount have the edge over the Hammond simulation, just like Korg and Roland are definitely better on the synth area compared to many of their competitors and so on), but the difference isn't as significant as it was in the past. I'd say it's even negligible in most cases. As things stand, the only way to build your dream workstation featuring Ivory's 70 GB pianos, HX3's organ engine, Arturia's VSTs and so on, is using a computer, where top-notch softwares take that 80-90% and brings it up to 100%. There'll be a new software revolution for sure, but the times will be much longer compared to the past: take Korg products for example, in ten years, spanning from 2001 to 2011, we moved from the Triton (which offered more or less the same sound quality as the Trinity) to the Kronos (an outstanding improvement); in the following ten years, we went from the Kronos to... the Kronos, as the Nautilus still features the same engine and is still (rightly) considered of one the best-sounding workstations available.

All this long-winded speech to say that, since Clavia, nor its competitors, can really amaze us with groundbreaking improvements in the short (and probably the middle too) term, all that's left for a company's releasing new products with minor improvements and, above all, not supporting older hardware as much as it could technically be possible too. A way to mitigate this would be releasing new models less frequently and/or focusing on delivering new products. Being a trustworthy company, that's what I expect Clavia's to do: case in point, the Wave 2, or the new samples released in the sample library 2 format; also, if they don't release a new Electro in the next months, they could break the 3-years update cycle for the Electro, and since it'll still sell as it's as good as the day it came out, it's a win-win for both customers and Nord itself (which keeps selling and saves on R&D costs). Anyway, when they'll choose to release a new Electro, and whether they'll update the 6, will tell us a lot about Nord's near future. They could get by by updating the B3 simulation and increasing the sample memory, but then I have no idea what they could pull out of their hat without merging the Electro and Stage lines.
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Re: Wish List for Future Nord Keyboards

Postby Nico38 » 11 Mar 2021, 11:37

StrangeAeons wrote:
nic cue wrote:Hello all,

personally, I think this wish list is a good idea!
But the question could also be : does we really need new models or just improved sounds to play for a few years yet with current models (for NE, NS, NP)?

For the NE (that i'm an owner): this keyboard line was acclaimed for his easyness of use. The current NE6 has already lot of functions (3 sound engines, that can be splitted or layered, transitions, etc...), when you see its evolution from NE2. Still a few new models, and it will be a workstation (quite the opposite of the original interest of this keyboard) or... a N. Stage!
Next to that, version 6 of nord piano library is relatively recent, just 1 acoustic piano and all rhodes (yes, it's not nothing!) . We could have a few new acoustics piano, and a revisted wurly for example... And why not an improved B3 (for the C/V and percussion) on the current machines?


Admittedly, Nord could do exactly what you described, just like when they updated the C2 with the C2D's newer simulation: that is, they could release updates for older Electro and Stage keyboards whilst releasing new models that focus on hardware improvements (e.g. more piano and sample memory, faster speed transfer, more polyphony etc). And yet, they never updated the Electro 4 with the 5's Hammond simulation, and the new White Grand Piano only runs on the latest Nord keyboards. It's a commercial strategy, imagine they release an Electro 7 with 2 GB of piano memory and 1 GB for samples, a bigger, colour screen and an improved B3, announcing that Electro 6's getting that B3 update too: they'd lose a lot of potential sales due to the fact that many will either buy a discounted or used Electro 6 as they probably don't care about the other new features.

And, once again, as you cleverly wrote, there isn't much more room for improvement before the Electro becomes a Stage. We've objectively reached a point where we've exploited the 80, maybe 90% of a current digital emulation technologies' full potential. There's room for improvement and every maker has its strongpoints (I vastly prefer Nord's pianos over Korg's, but Crumar and Viscount have the edge over the Hammond simulation, just like Korg and Roland are definitely better on the synth area compared to many of their competitors and so on), but the difference isn't as significant as it was in the past. I'd say it's even negligible in most cases. As things stand, the only way to build your dream workstation featuring Ivory's 70 GB pianos, HX3's organ engine, Arturia's VSTs and so on, is using a computer, where top-notch softwares take that 80-90% and brings it up to 100%. There'll be a new software revolution for sure, but the times will be much longer compared to the past: take Korg products for example, in ten years, spanning from 2001 to 2011, we moved from the Triton (which offered more or less the same sound quality as the Trinity) to the Kronos (an outstanding improvement); in the following ten years, we went from the Kronos to... the Kronos, as the Nautilus still features the same engine and is still (rightly) considered of one the best-sounding workstations available.

All this long-winded speech to say that, since Clavia, nor its competitors, can really amaze us with groundbreaking improvements in the short (and probably the middle too) term, all that's left for a company's releasing new products with minor improvements and, above all, not supporting older hardware as much as it could technically be possible too. A way to mitigate this would be releasing new models less frequently and/or focusing on delivering new products. Being a trustworthy company, that's what I expect Clavia's to do: case in point, the Wave 2, or the new samples released in the sample library 2 format; also, if they don't release a new Electro in the next months, they could break the 3-years update cycle for the Electro, and since it'll still sell as it's as good as the day it came out, it's a win-win for both customers and Nord itself (which keeps selling and saves on R&D costs). Anyway, when they'll choose to release a new Electro, and whether they'll update the 6, will tell us a lot about Nord's near future. They could get by by updating the B3 simulation and increasing the sample memory, but then I have no idea what they could pull out of their hat without merging the Electro and Stage lines.


Do not forget that there is still a big difference between a Nord Stage and a Nord Electro is the multitimbrality. Indeed, the Nord Stage allows you to have 6 parts with 2 dedicated to the piano, 2 dedicated to samples and 2 dedicated to the Organ, it's still a big difference. Basically, the Nord Stage is the equivalent of two Nord Electro, that's the big difference that remains and is consistent.
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Re: Wish List for Future Nord Keyboards

Postby StrangeAeons » 11 Mar 2021, 14:32

Nico38 wrote:Do not forget that there is still a big difference between a Nord Stage and a Nord Electro is the multitimbrality. Indeed, the Nord Stage allows you to have 6 parts with 2 dedicated to the piano, 2 dedicated to samples and 2 dedicated to the Organ, it's still a big difference. Basically, the Nord Stage is the equivalent of two Nord Electro, that's the big difference that remains and is consistent.


Yes, absolutely. And there's the synth section above all, with that useful OLED display showing the waveform. But Nord already increased multitimbrality with the Electro 6 to up to three parts (and there's the double-manual B3 mode too). Nonetheless, I bet there aren't many people that actually exploit the Stage's 6 parts: an Electro with the ability to load up to two samples, instead of just one, along with piano and organ would probably be enough for most of us (the best way to exploit the Stage's raw power would be a master keyboard to send three out of six parts via MIDI, but I often see Stage owners just playing their Nord with a basic split). And considering how little space for improvements, at least for now, there is, people'll soon be wondering whether to buy a Stage or not solely for the synth section, in my opinion.
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