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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Postby emelenjr » 22 Aug 2019, 13:08

Analogika, you're a broken record on this beta software issue, and you're completely missing the larger issue. The main issue Clavia is faced with is due to 32-bit vs. 64-bit architecture. That's not to say Clavia shouldn't make sure its software works with the newest OS that many people are already testing out, but I have a lot of apps on my Mac right now that were never "updated to work with a beta OS" and they just... work. I know there are tens of thousands of apps out there and probably a very long list of apps that are having issues on Catalina, but the fact remains that a lot of developers were on the ball this whole time and Clavia wasn't one of those developers.

I wish Clavia were in the same position right now as other software developers who aren't presently scrambling to fix something. That would have helped ensure a smooth transition from one OS version to the next.
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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Postby Schorsch » 22 Aug 2019, 13:49

No one knows if and for how long Clavia is on for internal testings of potential 64bit versions of their software products, all we can do is wait until Catalina is released.

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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Postby OrpheusNY » 22 Aug 2019, 16:28

No one knows the Clavia software team is “scrambling” to finalize the update. They may just being kinda Swedish about it. We scandahoovians tend to approach life with an equanimity that can be maddening to those whose outlooks display... less Scandinavian equanimity.

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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Postby bartley99 » 22 Aug 2019, 22:44

So....who's winning in this thread? I lost count of the score.

Man, this thread is exhausting to read.
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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Postby wartaler » 22 Aug 2019, 23:40

"Note: Mac users may currently see a warning message about 64-bit compatibility when installing/running this application. A 64-bit version will be available on this download page before Apple ends their support for 32-bit applications." source: https://www.nordkeyboards.com/downloads ... nd-manager
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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Postby PScooter63 » 23 Aug 2019, 03:58

Thanks Wartaler, for one of several definitive posts... but obligatory (and in jest)...
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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Postby analogika » 23 Aug 2019, 15:58

LewTheKeysGuy wrote:
analogika wrote:Why should they bother rushing to release new software before Catalina is released?

Who - apart from the developers - gives a f**** whether the management software runs on a beta OS?


The principle of development within beta strategy is to ensure that when a NEW OS releases, such as MacOS, developers are given the chance to compile versions to support the new OS for those who want to get straight in to it. Perhaps going to a WWDC conference might help you lol. been there, done it, worn the shirt. YAWN!!!!!

Clavia needs to not only fix sound manager for 64 bit native use, but also needs to fix Sample Editor to properly support it's instruments and have this compatibility also. simple as that, otherwise as a manufacturer and developer, it's running in the wrong race track.

And is there any reason — any reason at all — to assume that this isn’t exactly what has been happening for months now?

Remember, the guy complaining here is not a Clavia developer, but some guy on the internet who is running a beta OS and somehow assumes that because he doesn’t have access to a version of Sound Manager that runs on this Beta, it must not exist.

If you’ve spent time at WWDC, you know that there are extremely good reasons why developers might not hand out beta versions of their software for testing on beta OSen to anybody but a tight-knit team of beta testers. This stupid complaint thread alone is proof that it can be a bad idea.

Can you imagine having to deal with dozens or hundreds of guys like this and trying to separate frivolous complaints from actual bug reports, while discerning what are your own software issues, and what are bugs in the OS?

The horror.
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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Postby sus_4 » 23 Aug 2019, 17:49

I believe Jeffrey Epstein was reading this thread, just before he tied the noose.
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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Postby emelenjr » 23 Aug 2019, 18:04

sus_4 wrote:I believe Jeffrey Epstein was reading this thread, just before he tied the noose.


"LOL I believe Jefferey Epstein and I had at least one thing in common!" doesn't further the discussion in this thread, and it definitely doesn't help your case.

If you're going to make a Jeffrey Epstein joke, at least don't make one that takes you down with it. Jeffrey Epstein never had this problem because he never used anything other than 16-bit software.
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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man

Postby Gambold » 24 Aug 2019, 00:23

>No one knows the Clavia software team is “scrambling” to finalize the update.<

Let's not forget that this is a small company. This "team" could well be one dude with a long punchlist of projects. But whatever the sitch in Stockholm, it's clear that this forum cannot satisfy the OP's thirst for knowledge. So I suggest he keep calling Clavia until someone there gives him the answer he craves. Probably wouldn't hurt to have a Swedish phrase-book at hand...

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