Nope. Cos as you frequently point out, you're not one. What I find interesting about your posts is...er...nothing.GuiliClayder wrote: Is that my problem as a customer ? The way I see it, premium prices equal premium support. Full stop.
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Re: Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Man
Did you see any such warning being given by Nord? If so please show me since I may have missed it .....GuiliClayder wrote: Catalina will be released in a couple of weeks. If all those companies are truly ready with 64-bit versions of their software, then why are they issuing warnings not to upgrade ? People will only upgrade when Catalina is officially released, the discussion is not about beta software ; however, the fact that these 'do not update' warnings are there, is a sign that they won't be ready when Catalina officially hits the market.
Have you had a problem up to now with any of Nords software tools not running on an official release of MAC OS? If so please let me know, again I may have missed something .... if not please be patient until Catalina has been released, you then will have a reason to complain if Nord does not provide updates to their software tools to be ready for Catalina at this point of time.GuiliClayder wrote:Is that my problem as a customer ? The way I see it, premium prices equal premium support. Full stop.Schorsch wrote: Also how do you know that Nord has plenty of resources? According to my knowledge the whole company is less than 40 people. These 40 people develop and maintain 8 (!) different core products plus additional options
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I wasn't talking about Nord specifically as far as 64-bit support goes and apparently Nord will come through with 64-bit versions of their software.
But while we're at it : how about some iOS apps, Nord ?
But while we're at it : how about some iOS apps, Nord ?
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Aha ... isn’t this thread specifically about Nord Sound Manager not supporting next version of Mac OS?GuiliClayder wrote:I wasn't talking about Nord specifically as far as 64-bit support goes and apparently Nord will come through with 64-bit versions of their software.
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We were digressing, talking about Steinberg, Native Instruments, etc. I merely picked up after that.Schorsch wrote:Aha ... isn’t this thread specifically about Nord Sound Manager not supporting next version of Mac OS?GuiliClayder wrote:I wasn't talking about Nord specifically as far as 64-bit support goes and apparently Nord will come through with 64-bit versions of their software.
But no skin off my nose. As you said, I'm not a Nord customer.
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There is one interesting thing I found out today from a trusted Apple networking specialist (not a direct Apple employee, but this is his bread-and-butter we're talking about, it's his job to be knowledgeable).
This is only tangentially related to the subject at hand, but possibly useful to a narrow subset of users: once new Macs (desktops, laptops) start shipping with Catalina out of the box, it's unlikely that downgrading them to Mohave will be officially supported/sanctioned. Something about the new T2 security chip configuration disallowing that.
Having said that, I think far too much fake outrage is being generally expressed in this thread. What person, when investing in mission-critical new hardware or software, doesn't take a long hard look at compatibility/usability before taking that leap? They don't call it "bleeding edge" for nothing.
I also agree that Nord is hardly the only entity in this boat. I received a proactive email from a just-as-legendary notation company last week, advising me to NOT upgrade to Catalina until they give the all-clear.
This is only tangentially related to the subject at hand, but possibly useful to a narrow subset of users: once new Macs (desktops, laptops) start shipping with Catalina out of the box, it's unlikely that downgrading them to Mohave will be officially supported/sanctioned. Something about the new T2 security chip configuration disallowing that.
Having said that, I think far too much fake outrage is being generally expressed in this thread. What person, when investing in mission-critical new hardware or software, doesn't take a long hard look at compatibility/usability before taking that leap? They don't call it "bleeding edge" for nothing.
I also agree that Nord is hardly the only entity in this boat. I received a proactive email from a just-as-legendary notation company last week, advising me to NOT upgrade to Catalina until they give the all-clear.
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You can never downgrade on a Mac. Well, you can, but not without some serious tinkering, something most users will not and cannot (or know how to) do. And to be honest, you shouldn't have to.PScooter63 wrote:[/i]: once new Macs (desktops, laptops) start shipping with Catalina out of the box, it's unlikely that downgrading them to Mohave will be officially supported/sanctioned. Something about the new T2 security chip configuration disallowing that.
Again, to each his (or her) own, but my opinion stands. All those companies should be ready NOW, they've had years to prepare...PScooter63 wrote: I also agree that Nord is hardly the only entity in this boat. I received a proactive email from a just-as-legendary notation company last week, advising me to NOT upgrade to Catalina until they give the all-clear.
I'm paying good money for a keyboard (or whatever I want to buy), money I work very hard for. So I think I'm entitled to get my money's worth.
I know that every company is trying to (or at least, is supposed to) keep the right balance between offering good customer service and high quality products on the one hand, and making a good profit on the other hand.
Sadly, though (and I'm not pointing any fingers at Nord, just speaking in general), the scales mostly tip towards making as much money as possible, instead of keeping customers happy. Ironically, I feel that Apple has turned a bit greedy since Steve Jobs passed away. I could be wrong, but it's not the same anymore. The magic is still there, but it's fading slowly but surely...
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Well, in general, it may be more complex than this. Independently of what profit margin a given company operates on, there is always the reality of balancing the available resources (limited not only by money but also by skills, training, availability, laws, current hiring and attrition rates, complexity of increasing team sizes, ...) with the things that the customers want. Should the company prioritize new products, new services, free upgrades (think sounds, maybe), bug fixes, etc -- matching the available resources.GuiliClayder wrote: I know that every company is trying to (or at least, is supposed to) keep the right balance between offering good customer service and high quality products on the one hand, and making a good profit on the other hand.
Even highly succesful companies with vast amount of resources needs to prioritize...
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https://iphone.appleinsider.com/article ... na-release
https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/03/apple-re ... c-release/
I guess now’s the time when certain app developers should accelerate their release schedule ...
The official build is here, even if just for developers.
I’m sure Nord already sent their (please let it be a revamped new) App to Apple for notarizing, to be fully compatible when Catalina releases, probably around next week.
https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/03/apple-re ... c-release/
I guess now’s the time when certain app developers should accelerate their release schedule ...
The official build is here, even if just for developers.
I’m sure Nord already sent their (please let it be a revamped new) App to Apple for notarizing, to be fully compatible when Catalina releases, probably around next week.
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I can’t upgrade for a while yet, anyway: most of my audio unit plug-ins won’t be compatible until around Christmas, at the earliest — as every year.
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