Harmonizer, I fully agree. What strikes me, though, is that Gambold might express his views quite differently, and with more modesty, instead of reiterating his views in a (to my feeling, at least) rather aggressive way.
On another note, I look forward to trying out these new enhanced EPs very much. For a rather different reason I ordered an Electro 6 recently and am waiting eagerly for it to arrive, and to get the software update required for playing the new sounds!
Re: From Nord: Good news regarding the new Enhanced EP:
chrism wrote:Sorry, but I really hate this kind of attitude. Disagreeing with somebody doesn't invalidate their opinion or their right to express it. Phrases like "do us a favour and switch" divides the community, when really we're all after the same thing here (fantastic keys) and should be working together to achieve it. Pushing out the counter argument doesn't do anybody a favour, it only creates negativity. And the world doesn't need any more negativity.Hervshahn wrote:Please do us a favour and switch over to another vendor and be happy with their continuous and eternal support
Yes you’re right and I am sorry for this, should have said “do me a favour” or leave this statement out (which I just did by editing my previous post)... however this constant negative way of Gambold does not help the community in any way ...
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Re: From Nord: Good news regarding the new Enhanced EP:
@Gambold: as written before I am sorry for being personal, shouldn’t have done this. However I still think that your expectation regarding Nords support for products being the 3rd past generation from current are very exaggerated and I fully agree with Analogica
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As an expat Aussie forced to speak German all day, I'm rather enjoying watching Germans being forced to argue in English
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Re: From Nord: Good news regarding the new Enhanced EP:
Here are a few thoughts that come to mind as I read this thread:
- The premise that updates to the NS3, newer products, or the piano/sample libraries should be limited to the capabilities of a keyboard released almost 7 years ago does not seem reasonable.
- If the premise of a post is to assert that Clavia/Nord is either malevolent or incompetent, then it seems reasonable to assume that the poster is acting as a gadfly or troll.
- If you want help with the sound of your keyboard, please post what you are using in your signal chain and your amplification (in your signature would be best) so we can help you with troubleshooting - otherwise, it looks like you’re just complaining.
- As the saying goes, “Even a dog knows the difference between being tripped over or being kicked.”
- The premise that updates to the NS3, newer products, or the piano/sample libraries should be limited to the capabilities of a keyboard released almost 7 years ago does not seem reasonable.
- If the premise of a post is to assert that Clavia/Nord is either malevolent or incompetent, then it seems reasonable to assume that the poster is acting as a gadfly or troll.
- If you want help with the sound of your keyboard, please post what you are using in your signal chain and your amplification (in your signature would be best) so we can help you with troubleshooting - otherwise, it looks like you’re just complaining.
- As the saying goes, “Even a dog knows the difference between being tripped over or being kicked.”
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Re: From Nord: Good news regarding the new Enhanced EP:
harmonizer wrote:I can understand how someone would be unhappy in this position.
And yet there are others, myself included (check my avatar), who also own only an E4. I am ecstatic for owners of newer models, and don’t in the slightest believe that I am somehow entitled to this also. To do so would sap company resources for development of newer, even better instruments that I will eventually invest in, as soon as I’m able.
Emotional maturity in the single digits (of age) doesn’t justify hijacking what was initially a positive thread.
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CountFosco wrote:As an expat Aussie forced to speak German all day, I'm rather enjoying watching Germans being forced to argue in English
I grew up in Hong Kong and am fully bilingual.
It’s far more amusing to consider an Aussie being forced to communicate in English.
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Re: From Nord: Good news regarding the new Enhanced EP:
analogika wrote:You do have a Point. However, the context here is that Gambold has spent the past years on these forums doing not much more than complaining about the Nord e-pianos and belittling anybody with different needs, tastes and preferences than him (including deriding anybody prioritising synthesis capabilities as not being a real musician).
I appreciate that there is a lot of history here that I am unaware of, but I find that meeting negativity with negativity just breeds more negativity, and then everybody ends up miserable.Hervshahn wrote:Yes you’re right and I am sorry for this, should have said “do me a favour” or leave this statement out (which I just did by editing my previous post)... however this constant negative way of Gambold does not help the community in any way ...
Anyway, sorry for derailing this thread even more from up here on my high horse. I'll step down, got some keys that need playing.
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Re: From Nord: Good news regarding the new Enhanced EP:
A lot of negative vibes in this post guys.
Lets face it, we are all Nord fanatics here. We live and breathe these magical instruments which is the reason most of us are here. We put our money where our mouths are and then joined the club. Its therefore understandable that when anyone says anything bad about our precious Nords that we jump to the defense. I think sometimes we can then overlook someone bringing a valid point.
Gambold does often bring some valid points, even if he can be taken as being negative.... i have enjoyed his input on many a thread... you know he is going to say it how it is even if its not the answer you might like lol.
I do partially agree with his message that a part of the appeal of Nord keyboards is the ability to swap and change sounds from the library so can understand frustration when something comes out but then you cant use it.
That said, if all new sample releases and their new features worked on older boards, then Nord would have no reason to create and sell new models at all. There is evolution of the products, more memory, more features, better usability. The boards are constantly improving and its inevitable that some older hardware will be left behind with what newer hardware can do better. If you MUST have the new features, the answer is, sell the NE4 and put the proceeds towards an NE5/NE6?
Having tried the new EP's they are excellent, lots more punch in the sounds now especially with the new filters.
Lets face it, we are all Nord fanatics here. We live and breathe these magical instruments which is the reason most of us are here. We put our money where our mouths are and then joined the club. Its therefore understandable that when anyone says anything bad about our precious Nords that we jump to the defense. I think sometimes we can then overlook someone bringing a valid point.
Gambold does often bring some valid points, even if he can be taken as being negative.... i have enjoyed his input on many a thread... you know he is going to say it how it is even if its not the answer you might like lol.
I do partially agree with his message that a part of the appeal of Nord keyboards is the ability to swap and change sounds from the library so can understand frustration when something comes out but then you cant use it.
That said, if all new sample releases and their new features worked on older boards, then Nord would have no reason to create and sell new models at all. There is evolution of the products, more memory, more features, better usability. The boards are constantly improving and its inevitable that some older hardware will be left behind with what newer hardware can do better. If you MUST have the new features, the answer is, sell the NE4 and put the proceeds towards an NE5/NE6?
Having tried the new EP's they are excellent, lots more punch in the sounds now especially with the new filters.
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