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Re: Electro 5d vs Stage 3

Postby criss » 24 Aug 2017, 15:23

Janatuinen wrote:I’m new at this forum and I have some questions about Electro 5 and Stage 2. I have at the moment quite old Roland FP-2 stage piano with good enough keyboard action but I don’t like its piano sound. That’s why I’m looking for the new equipment. My plan is that I use Roland FP-2 as a MIDI controller and buy Electro or Stage 2 for primary sound generator. Questions:

1) I’m quite poor with MIDI issues. What should I consider when using Roland as a midi controller? Is it totally suitable for playing piano sound of the Electro or Nord?
2) With Electro 5D 61 I would get better piano sounds but also good keyboard action for organ playing. Just to make sure, is it possible to play simultaneously Electro 5D’s piano sound with Roland’s keyboard and organ sound with 5D’s keyboard? Meaning that no need to change or press something when changing sound from piano to organ.
3) I think that I don’t need the synth section of the Stage 2. Is there some advantages in Stage 2 which I probably would need compared to Electro 5D 61? I play piano, electro piano and organ sounds. That’s it.

If your Roland keyboard has MIDI-OUT, you can control the NE5D with it (also, "Yes" on the 2nd question).
If you don't need the synth section the NE5D is the best choice IMHO. Also, you can load and use a lot of synths samples.
NE5D, NLA1, BS2, Boog, TX81Z, JV-1080, A33, AX-Synth, PC3K6, M350, BeatstepP. etc.
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Re: Electro 5d vs Stage 3

Postby anotherscott » 24 Aug 2017, 15:47

Janatuinen wrote:
anotherscott wrote:The NS3 gives you a lot of things over the Electro besides just the synth. Much more split/layer flexibility, aftertouch, a lot more sample memory, the ability to process sampled sounds through the synth, more flexible output routing, a lot of MIDI functionality, the cool pitch stick, seamless sound transitions, clav EQ, visual split point indicators, more effects controls...

But if you're not committed to having everything you need in one board (since you talked about adding pitch bend via a second keyboard), there are lots of things you can do with the combination of an NE5D and a second keyboard...

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My plan is that I use Roland FP-2 as a MIDI controller and buy Electro or Stage 2 for primary sound generator. Questions:

1) I’m quite poor with MIDI issues. What should I consider when using Roland as a midi controller? Is it totally suitable for playing piano sound of the Electro or Nord?
2) With Electro 5D 61 I would get better piano sounds but also good keyboard action for organ playing. Just to make sure, is it possible to play simultaneously Electro 5D’s piano sound with Roland’s keyboard and organ sound with 5D’s keyboard? Meaning that no need to change or press something when changing sound from piano to organ.

Yes to all of the above. Run MIDI cable from FP2 out to NE5D in. Turn on Split, with the split point set to "MIdI Upper rcv". FP2 will trigger whatever Nord sound you set for Upper (so select Piano), Nord's keys will trigger whatever Nord sound you set for Lower (so select Organ). See page 15 of the manual to see it illustrated. You can probably keep all the MIDI channels set to their defaults.

Janatuinen wrote:3) I think that I don’t need the synth section of the Stage 2. Is there some advantages in Stage 2 which I probably would need compared to Electro 5D 61? I play piano, electro piano and organ sounds. That’s it.

The first paragraph of my earlier post (quoted at the top of this message) lists Stage 3 advantages. The Stage 2 has most, but not all of the same advantages, lacking seamless sound transition for example. OTOH, the NE5D has better organ sound than NS2 (NS3 should be same as NE5D). Just for piano, EP, and organ, I'd probably stick with the NE5D, but there are a few things you won't be able to do, like layer an acoustic piano and electric piano sound, and the effects options are a bit more flexible on the Stage models.
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Re: Electro 5d vs Stage 3

Postby ferdibinger » 24 Aug 2017, 15:53

Thanks, I thought you refer to "electric piano" in the sense of rhodes and wurly of the "electric piano" section of the piano library.
The new ones are patches in the new "digital piano" section, named "EP".
that was not clear to me, not having read all of the context.

PS i'd love to see an updated wurlitzer!
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