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Re: Clavia/Nord Financial Information
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Re: Clavia/Nord Financial Information
Gambold wrote:(I'd prefer that when I was on E:33 that the page button took me to E:43, not E:41, etc), and I've noticed that when I'm playing a sample, I have to hit shift when adding an effect on the fly, or the effect defaults to the piano and so doesn't come on - little things like that take two hands instead of one.
this is an aside to the main post topic, but:
1) totally agree on the page movement thing
2) nothing really "defaults" to anything per se. There are parameter values which are inherited through the factory programming. If you want an effect to go straight to Synth instead of Piano upon activation, then activate the effect, switch to Synth, de-activate the effect, and STORE the program. Next time around it will default to Synth.
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Re: Clavia/Nord Financial Information
When a small but successful and profitable company makes products that other much larger competitors may wish to copy, its sometimes simpler to take them over.
On the other hand if they did go bust, I’m sure this forum would continue in some form.
On the other hand if they did go bust, I’m sure this forum would continue in some form.
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Re: Clavia/Nord Financial Information
Woodyeyes wrote:When a small but successful and profitable company makes products that other much larger competitors may wish to copy, its sometimes simpler to take them over.
On the other hand if they did go bust, I’m sure this forum would continue in some form.
Or they just save the takeover costs, pretty much copy everything, paint it black and put their own label on it... rather like the new Yamaha CP88.
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Re: Clavia/Nord Financial Information
Gambold wrote:Clavia is already behind the curve on their software (no wireless, no IPad or Chromebook access, etc)
You can't seriously tell me someone who's involved enough with music to shell out the cash for a Nord would cheap out with a Chromebook? They're really only designed for students, their sole capability is to run the Chrome browser and whatever browser plugins are available. The one I got stuck with be only had 16GB of internal flash memory!
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Re: Clavia/Nord Financial Information
Chrombook bashing aside - some people find them light and useful, especially for single-purpose applications.
But far more tedious than having to use a full laptop is having to cable it in. Wireless needs to happen.
But far more tedious than having to use a full laptop is having to cable it in. Wireless needs to happen.
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Re: Clavia/Nord Financial Information
Gambold wrote:Wireless needs to happen.
Which invites its own level of tedium to the gigging party...
WiFi? Bring your own WAP/router and configure/test, configure/retest, and configure some more. "Cause I ain't competing with my clientele (maybe even my bandmates) for network bandwidth.
Bluetooth? Be prepared for your devices to fall asleep during breaks between sets, and allow enough time to wake them all up and reconnect to each other. (Oh wait, that's true for WiFi, too.)
These details are not insurmountable... but to call a cabled solution "tedious" is sugar-coating the current state of wireless a bit.
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it seems that this thread has rather veered off-topic, but since we're there anyway:
I had a simply BRILLIANT idea a couple years ago for the Nord booth at NAMM. After a couple years of having very good success at running my Qu-Pac keyboard/band mixer from iPad interface via wifi, I figured I could run the NAMM booth sound the same way and rigged up a travel rack to bring with me to NAMM. The Qu-Pac could live on the floor beneath one of the keyboards, take up less space, I could mix from out front, etc. Turns out the Anaheim Convention Center has too much wifi traffic in the house to allow the system to work. By the time we figured that out, the whole rig had been wired up and set in stone, so I had to setup/mix a different show every hour on the hour for three days in a row on my hands and knees. Never again. Give me the tedium of cabling things whenever possible.
I had a simply BRILLIANT idea a couple years ago for the Nord booth at NAMM. After a couple years of having very good success at running my Qu-Pac keyboard/band mixer from iPad interface via wifi, I figured I could run the NAMM booth sound the same way and rigged up a travel rack to bring with me to NAMM. The Qu-Pac could live on the floor beneath one of the keyboards, take up less space, I could mix from out front, etc. Turns out the Anaheim Convention Center has too much wifi traffic in the house to allow the system to work. By the time we figured that out, the whole rig had been wired up and set in stone, so I had to setup/mix a different show every hour on the hour for three days in a row on my hands and knees. Never again. Give me the tedium of cabling things whenever possible.
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Re: Clavia/Nord Financial Information
Not sure what the detraction on wireless is about - I wasn't talking about at gigs - does anyone actually plug in Sound Manager while on stage? Your band must take long breaks between songs.
I think the verdict on wireless being more convenient than wired is long settled. I use wireless to connect to my Mojo - I can sit in my den or wherever and futz with its settings to my heart's content (also I can use my IPhone if I want)...I don't have to run downstairs and hunker next to the beast, tethered in by a USB cable.
Of course the Mojo's interface is less sophisticated than Nord's Sound Manager. You can still do a bit, it's just kind of ugly and there isn't any ability to upload new sounds or that kind of thing. Mojo uses firmware and its own internal SSID, so you have to jump off your local Internet and can only talk to the board.
Best would be for Nord to facilitate a way for its boards to attach to your home internet. Built-in card would be best, and you'd give it an IP just like you do your printer and anything else in your wireless paradise. Uploading pianos is already a time-sucker so the added minutes for wireless isn't going to matter - unless you are doing this on stage, which I find to hard to imagine. Wireless cards are hardly an expensive item - the cost for Clavia would be incorporating one into their hardware - but it's going to have to happen sooner or later.
I think the verdict on wireless being more convenient than wired is long settled. I use wireless to connect to my Mojo - I can sit in my den or wherever and futz with its settings to my heart's content (also I can use my IPhone if I want)...I don't have to run downstairs and hunker next to the beast, tethered in by a USB cable.
Of course the Mojo's interface is less sophisticated than Nord's Sound Manager. You can still do a bit, it's just kind of ugly and there isn't any ability to upload new sounds or that kind of thing. Mojo uses firmware and its own internal SSID, so you have to jump off your local Internet and can only talk to the board.
Best would be for Nord to facilitate a way for its boards to attach to your home internet. Built-in card would be best, and you'd give it an IP just like you do your printer and anything else in your wireless paradise. Uploading pianos is already a time-sucker so the added minutes for wireless isn't going to matter - unless you are doing this on stage, which I find to hard to imagine. Wireless cards are hardly an expensive item - the cost for Clavia would be incorporating one into their hardware - but it's going to have to happen sooner or later.
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