Can you enable String Res on electric pianos?

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Can you enable String Res on electric pianos?

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Hey guys! It has been a while. Hope you are all doing well. :wave:

I need a little help answering a question.

I recently had my Nord Stage 2 fixed at a repair shop. After I still had some problems with not being able to enable pedal noise on Grand pianos and electric pianos. Clavia helped me by sending a particular file that fixed the issue.

Now I just want to make sure that the String Res is also working as it should. It works on Grand and Upright pianos and also on a single Digital piano sound “Ballad EP1 Med6.0”.
I can’t remember if String Res is supposed to work on Electric pianos or not. And I didn’t get to try the new 6.0 versions before my Nord Stage 2 broke and had to be repaired.

I searched the forum and the nordkeyboards website. I did find some stuff like this quote from the Nord Stage 4 manual:
“If a piano is selected that isn’t compatible with the String Resonance feature, this function is disabled. This applies to e.g. the small (Sml) versions of the grand pianos and uprights and the electric pianos.”

This seems to suggest that String Res cannot be enabled on the Electric pianos. But then again it can on the “Ballad EP1 Med6.0” for example. So, I was wondering if this might have been changed in the new version 6 samples. And pedal noise works fine on some Electric pianos as well (not the Wurlitzer though).

I just wanted to be completely sure if String Res is working on my keyboard or not, which I can’t check myself.

So, after this long intro my basic question is:
Can you enable String Res on Electric pianos? Like for example on the EP9 Stockholm XL 6.0.npno?
And just to be completely sure pedal noise also works as it should. Can you enable pedal noise on Wurlitzer samples?

Thanks for any help! :yourock:
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Re: Can you enable String Res on electric pianos?

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No string res on E-pianos (NS4), and not the EP9 L (haven't tried the XL though).
No pedal noise on Wurlitzer (W1 v6.3 and W2 v6.1)
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Re: Can you enable String Res on electric pianos?

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catosim wrote:No string res on E-pianos (NS4), and not the EP9 L (haven't tried the XL though).
No pedal noise on Wurlitzer (W1 v6.3 and W2 v6.1)
Probably because... there are no Strings to resonate on tines or reeds based EPs (otherwise they should call it "Tines/Reed Res" in that case) :mrgreen: :facepalm:
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Re: Can you enable String Res on electric pianos?

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maxpiano wrote:
catosim wrote:No string res on E-pianos (NS4), and not the EP9 L (haven't tried the XL though).
No pedal noise on Wurlitzer (W1 v6.3 and W2 v6.1)
Probably because... there are no Strings to resonate on tines or reeds based EPs (otherwise they should call it "Tines/Reed Res" in that case) :mrgreen: :facepalm:
:D Yeah I thought the same thing. But then again as mentioned you can enable String Res on the "Ballad EP1". It might still enable similar stuff even though it is called "String" res.

But thanks a lot for confirming guys. Now I can sleep well at night that my keyboard works as it should. :thanx:

Have fun guys! :keyboard:
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Re: Can you enable String Res on electric pianos?

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Cbas wrote:
maxpiano wrote:
catosim wrote:No string res on E-pianos (NS4), and not the EP9 L (haven't tried the XL though).
No pedal noise on Wurlitzer (W1 v6.3 and W2 v6.1)
Probably because... there are no Strings to resonate on tines or reeds based EPs (otherwise they should call it "Tines/Reed Res" in that case) :mrgreen: :facepalm:
:D Yeah I thought the same thing. But then again as mentioned you can enable String Res on the "Ballad EP1". It might still enable similar stuff even though it is called "String" res.

But thanks a lot for confirming. Now I can sleep well at night that my keyboard works as it should. :thanx:

Have fun guys! :keyboard:
Yes yes, Cbas, I was just kidding and your question was totally legit, indeed also on the Rhodes there can be a form of resonance (though not as relevant as on an acoustic piano) :thumbup:
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Re: Can you enable String Res on electric pianos?

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maxpiano wrote:
Yes yes, Cbas, I was just kidding and your question was totally legit, indeed also on the Rhodes there can be a form of resonance (though not as relevant as on an acoustic piano) :thumbup:
:D :D Thanks for clarifying maxpiano. I thought you might be joking, but you never know. :D Thanks again
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Re: Can you enable String Res on electric pianos?

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Ballad EP1 is a layered piano sound, right? So maybe part of it has string resonance...
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Re: Can you enable String Res on electric pianos?

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FZiegler wrote:Ballad EP1 is a layered piano sound, right? So maybe part of it has string resonance...
Good observation, if that Ballad EP1 is a layer of an acoustic (or CP) + an EP/Digital piano, the acoustic part of it may be the reason why String Res is applicable in that case.
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Re: Can you enable String Res on electric pianos?

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maxpiano wrote:
FZiegler wrote:Ballad EP1 is a layered piano sound, right? So maybe part of it has string resonance...
Good observation, if that Ballad EP1 is a layer of an acoustic (or CP) + an EP/Digital piano, the acoustic part of it may be the reason why String Res is applicable in that case.
Ah yeah good point guys. That might explain it
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Re: Can you enable String Res on electric pianos?

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maxpiano wrote:
FZiegler wrote:Ballad EP1 is a layered piano sound, right? So maybe part of it has string resonance...
Good observation, if that Ballad EP1 is a layer of an acoustic (or CP) + an EP/Digital piano, the acoustic part of it may be the reason why String Res is applicable in that case.
The Ballad EP1 is a layered digital piano sound. All "layers" piano are in the Digital category.
So there should be no string resonance for these piano sounds.

But there is a flaw in the latest v6.0 version of the sound where string resonance can be activated.
This is not the case with the v5.2.

There are other flaws in latest version of acoustic pianos where the soft / long release is not available (e.g Grand Imperial v6.1).

For these sounds, I reverted back to the v5 versions.

I will create a post that recap all piano sounds with such flaws.
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