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Bass/Brass Split on the Electro 6D

Postby JohnnyC » 04 Jun 2018, 12:57

Hi guys,

I’m considering buying the Nord Electro 6 upon its release. I’m planning to use it as a bass split mostly and was wondering if it was possible to have a bass/brass split? I can see you can split with separate engines but is it possible to split within the same engine?

Look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,

Johnny
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Re: Bass/Brass Split on the Electro 6D

Postby anotherscott » 04 Jun 2018, 14:04

JohnnyC wrote:I’m considering buying the Nord Electro 6 upon its release. I’m planning to use it as a bass split mostly and was wondering if it was possible to have a bass/brass split? I can see you can split with separate engines but is it possible to split within the same engine?

No, you can only use one sound from an engine at a time. That combined with the single split point is why I think the 3-part multitimbral thing is about the least significant upgrade from the 5 to the 6. Once you split two sounds on an E5, I think the odds that you'll ever need to layer an additional sound that happens to be from the one engine you're not using are quite small.

For your particular need, the E6 is actually a step backwards. The E5 made it easy to use an external sound on the top half of a split. So you could use an internal bass sound, and then on the right, you could trigger a brass sound from an iPad or whatever. I had hoped they'd have extended this feature to make it just as easy to use an external sound on the bottom half of a split (so you could use an external bass sound while having unfettered access to all Nord sounds on the top half), but instead, they got rid of this functionality completely. :-( I can see how it would have been more complicated to do now, though, since you no longer address Programs with sounds based on locations (Upper Part, Lower Part), but instead based on sound engines (Piano part, Organ part, Synth part).

Anyway, the closest you could come to doing what you want on the 6 would be to use a Piano or Organ sound for you Bass part. Which wouldn't necessarily be out of the question. The Doors used a Fender Rhodes bass sound a lot, Fender actually made a mini-keyboard just for the purpose of playing bass parts. A clav sound with some EQ might work for some things, too. A Hammond sound probably won't work, they don't specifically emulate the bass pedals. The E5 had a B3+Bass option that gave you the deep bottom (think only when playing another B3 part on the top), but that's also gone from the E6, I believe.
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Re: Bass/Brass Split on the Electro 6D

Postby thegentile » 04 Jun 2018, 15:43

The E5 had a B3+Bass option that gave you the deep bottom (think only when playing another B3 part on the top), but that's also gone from the E6, I believe.


the ne6 has this feature.
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Re: Bass/Brass Split on the Electro 6D

Postby baekgaard » 04 Jun 2018, 15:48

anotherscott wrote:The E5 had a B3+Bass option that gave you the deep bottom (think only when playing another B3 part on the top), but that's also gone from the E6, I believe.


The NE6 also has a(n improved) B3 Bass option; it allows you to split B3 bass and piano or B3 bass and B3. I think it works similarly to how I read the NE5 behaves. From the manual:

"With the B3 Bass setting, its drawbars are placed on the “upper” manual in non-dual organ mode, making it possible to create B3 Bass and Piano/sample synth splits. In dual organ mode the bass drawbars
are found on the lower manual, with a standard set of B3 drawbars on the upper manual, as expected."
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Re: Bass/Brass Split on the Electro 6D

Postby anotherscott » 04 Jun 2018, 18:19

baekgaard and thegentile, thanks for he correction about the B3+bass feature on the 6, which is actually improved from the 5 version, good to know!
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Re: Bass/Brass Split on the Electro 6D

Postby Sjone » 17 Jun 2019, 11:31

Hello,

First post here. Small introduction: I've owned NE2 in the past and currently have NP88. I play for my own amusement and do about 10-15 small gigs a year with few bands (weddings, church concerts, company gigs). I like to have 88 key piano (NP88 atm, best thing I've owned) as my main instrument and then have a synth on top of it. I've had many mid-range synths in the past but not completely happy with any of them. Now on my last gig my synth started doing tricks on my and I missed few of my parts due to hardware problems - so need new synth asap for the next gig and considering NE6.

As I've been happy with NP88 and see no need for ever replacing it, I thought that maybe NE6 would be a good long term investment as well (though a bit pricey for me).

SO my question would be:

I now know you cannot split 2 different synth sounds (which is a feature I would kinda like to have) but there is a post on these forums saying it is possible to split the same synth sample and apply different parametres to these split zones. This post was about NE5. Is this true for NE6 as well? Could I take one synth sample, split it and take away the attack, add sustain+chrorus to the left hand and use it as a pad while the same sample works as lead for the right hand? And often I would need to octve shift the left hand part few octaves higher.

If this is possible, could I still layer organ with the LH pad sound? And could the organ be controlled with volume pedal while the synth samples have fixed levels? I like have stacked pad sounds and build songs by gradually adding more sounds with volume pedal.

What do you think, is buying NE6 mainly for the synth samples and secondarily for organs a bit too much? I obviously don't need the pianos for anything. Maybe I could do some smaller gigs with only one board tho..

Thanks for your time

EDIT:

Decided to order NE6. I'm in a hurry so hopefully wont make a bad decision. To answer my own question: I've watched and read pretty much all material you can find of this board and I don't see how splitting a synth sample in two separate sections would be possible (without sampling a new sample yourself). I also don't see how that could've worked on NE5 either.
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Re: Bass/Brass Split on the Electro 6D

Postby phillinnell » 01 Aug 2019, 17:19

Is it possible to split two synth sounds with an external midi keyboard?

As it still fundamentally seems to revolve around the hi and lo split button, it seems this is not possible?

e.g. I would like to have a strings and brass section at the same time.
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Re: Bass/Brass Split on the Electro 6D

Postby fieldflower » 01 Aug 2019, 17:45

phillinnell wrote:Is it possible to split two synth sounds with an external midi keyboard?

As it still fundamentally seems to revolve around the hi and lo split button, it seems this is not possible?

e.g. I would like to have a strings and brass section at the same time.


No, for Electro it's one synth sound at a time.
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