Using the Radial KeyLargo

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Re: Using the Radial KeyLargo

Post by FZiegler »

I'm not done with some aspects of my routing, just new to the idea not to have one audio-out from the Stage 3 for everything. In considering things like that, my imagination sometimes makes them more complicated than they really might be. But adding a second signal chain for the organ sounds definitely adds some complexity: Using a NeoVent already involves an extra spring reverb before. So, I'd wish to have all the rest after the rotary unit in one as some mixing consoles would provide (room reverb for some occasions, compressor, maybe even EQ - all things you don't need yourself if you have a tech guy you trust in or if you shape the sound only inside the Nord). That's not what the Key Largo offers as it's focussed on routing audio and MIDI.

There are many more Key Largo users. I'd be interested in how they use it: Schorsch e.g. uses it together with the NeoVent and IIRC with reverb pre + post NeoVent.
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Re: Using the Radial KeyLargo

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The Key Largo is just a mixer + DI (plus an effect loop and some MIDI capabilities), so I talking about how to "use" it with respect to the signal chain has questionable efficacy in my opinion. Its appeal is the combination of mixer + DI plus excellent built quality, all of which somewhat justifies the high price. A minus is the lack of any sort of headphones out, as you pointed out. And also, the lack of solo/mute buttons.

By the way I have the KL too, and I use its effects loop as well. As for routing is concerned, I like to have the reverb pre-Leslie, so I use the room 1 or 2 option from the Stage 3 as it's somewhat the closest to a spring reverb, then the out (output 3) goes into the Vent. Then, it goes stereo into the KL. I then have a HoF2 in the effect loop, which I use in small doses as an ambient reverb post-Leslie.

Another option is to parallel a non-Leslied, reverbered signal with a Leslied non-reverbered signal. I have tried this option and after some initial excitement I have abandoned it. I think Schorsch still uses it.
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Re: Using the Radial KeyLargo

Post by Deadkeys »

Hey Guys... late to the conversation but I own a keylargo and use for submixing and monitoring as well as DI...Fits perfect on my Electro5D.
I was told about a year ago that the usb was not compatible with apple products or IPads and only with laptops to use softsynth.
Did something change? I have Ipad 2nd and 3rd generation. IS this an Ipad pro only thing or whas there an update. Would love to use all the
cool sound apps on my Ipad.
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Re: Using the Radial KeyLargo

Post by Schorsch »

Hi Deadkeys,

nothing changed unfortuantely - the USB interface of the Key Largo is not class compliant. It would at least require a firmware update to make it compatible, if possible at all depending on the type of USB interface used.

You will find information about compatibility and others in the FAQ section for the Key LArgo on Radial's website: https://www.radialeng.com/product/key-largo/faq

There it's also mentioned that it's not iOS compatible:

Does the Key Largo support iOS devices?
The Key-Largo is not supported by iOS devices. The USB connection on the Key-Largo was designed to be connected to laptop or a computer with a USB port. We do have other products, however, that will work with iOS devices such as the BT-Pro and the SB-5.
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Re: Using the Radial KeyLargo

Post by DavidSydney »

Hi all,
I just checked the Radial FAQ page, which currently says "On a Mac, the Key-Largo is plug and play. With a PC, drivers are required…".
But as Schorsch said, it says it doesn't work with iOS. However hunting around the web, there are people who say it works, provided you have a way to supply power to the iPad (via a powered hub or with Apple's USB + power dongle). I'd certainly give it a try Deadkeys!
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Re: Using the Radial KeyLargo

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Yep...Thanks...that why I asked... theres a guy in the thread above using an Ipad pro and triggering sounds from the Key Largo he says...
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Re: Using the Radial KeyLargo

Post by catosim »

Deadkeys wrote:....theres a guy in the thread above using an Ipad pro and triggering sounds from the Key Largo he says...
Thats correct, I use an iPad Pro, and the softsynths are triggering via the KeyLargo.
I have installed a a small background tool called MIDI wrench in order to make the iPad communicate with my Nord when using ForScore.
Maybe it's a lucky side-effect that the iPad Pro also communicates via the KeyLargo.
Anyway, I just connected the iPad to the Keylargo via USB, and to the Yamaha GT2 via DIN MIDI. and then I was set to go :)
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