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Sustain Pedal - three keyboards

Postby Jorrox » 31 Aug 2011, 18:16

Guys - On one on-stage rig I have three keyboards. Is there anyway I can make one sustain pedal work on all three, maybe by splitting the signal or something like that?

I'm assuming at this point that the make/model of the keyboards not the pedal is significant. Suffice to say that one standard Yamaha sustain pedal will work with any of the three on an individual basis.
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Re: Sustain Pedal - three keyboards

Postby Hanon_CTS » 31 Aug 2011, 18:32

Here's one idea:
MIDI Solutions MIDI Footswitch Controller with the MIDI output routed to the input of a MIDI Solutions Quadra Thru. Then each MIDI output to the instruments that you want the pedal to control.
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Cheers, Hanon
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Re: Sustain Pedal - three keyboards

Postby Jorrox » 02 Sep 2011, 12:44

Thanks man. I'll investigate those. I'm afraid I'm a bit dim where Midi is concerned but I'll certainly give it a look.
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Re: Sustain Pedal - three keyboards

Postby Hanon_CTS » 02 Sep 2011, 16:25

Jorrox wrote:Is there anyway I can make one sustain pedal work on all three, maybe by splitting the signal or something like that?

Unfortunately MIDI is going to be the only off-the-shelf solution.
It can't be done with a splitter cable as each instrument sends part of it's own power supply to the pedal switch, this intermingling of different power supplies could have unpredictable, and possibly damaging results.

An electronics tech could build you one using a project box, 9 volt battery, five 1/4" TR jacks and a 4PST "4 Pole Single Throw" relay.
The relay will keep the instruments' power supplies isolated.
The whole thing should cost you around $40 in parts and 30 minutes labor to assemble.
The basic concept is to wire one jack so a footswitch controls the relay coil via 9 volt battery.
The other four jacks, one each to a set of relay contacts (assuming normally open contacts )
Then it's just a matter of running a Hi-Z cable from each of "the other four jacks" to each instrument's footswitch jack.
Cheers, Hanon
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Re: Sustain Pedal - three keyboards

Postby Jorrox » 02 Sep 2011, 17:23

Thanks guys - I'll have to get my midi head on.
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Re: Sustain Pedal - three keyboards

Postby mtier0067 » 11 Nov 2021, 04:55

Wouldn't it be great if you could use the Nord triple pedal and the extern section on a Nord Stage 2/3 to control sustain on 2 boards at once? Would it not be totally worth the 400$ (!!!!!!) that it costs if that same pedal could be used to have one of the three control rotor speed on the Leslie, one control sustain on one board, and another control sustain on the external board?

I would buy that thing in a heartbeat to get that functionality and the pedal noise from my NS3SW...
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Re: Sustain Pedal - three keyboards

Postby cgrafx » 11 Nov 2021, 06:32

Hanon_CTS wrote:
Jorrox wrote:Is there anyway I can make one sustain pedal work on all three, maybe by splitting the signal or something like that?

Unfortunately MIDI is going to be the only off-the-shelf solution.
It can't be done with a splitter cable as each instrument sends part of it's own power supply to the pedal switch, this intermingling of different power supplies could have unpredictable, and possibly damaging results.

An electronics tech could build you one using a project box, 9 volt battery, five 1/4" TR jacks and a 4PST "4 Pole Single Throw" relay.
The relay will keep the instruments' power supplies isolated.
The whole thing should cost you around $40 in parts and 30 minutes labor to assemble.
The basic concept is to wire one jack so a footswitch controls the relay coil via 9 volt battery.
The other four jacks, one each to a set of relay contacts (assuming normally open contacts )
Then it's just a matter of running a Hi-Z cable from each of "the other four jacks" to each instrument's footswitch jack.
Cheers, Hanon


Or you could just wire up a triple pole switch and forget all the electronics
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Re: Sustain Pedal - three keyboards

Postby maxpiano » 11 Nov 2021, 09:49

mtier0067 wrote:Wouldn't it be great if you could use the Nord triple pedal and the extern section on a Nord Stage 2/3 to control sustain on 2 boards at once?


Actually you can, just enable SUSTPED on the Extern and when you use the sustain of the Triple pedal it will be sent over Extern MDII Channel too.

@cgrafx: good idea, to modify an existing momentary sustain pedal with a 3 pole momentary switch and wire it to 3 distinct cables (or maybe better just 3 panel jacks, to keep it tidy); a pity that your reply came 10 years later than the question, but good for the future.
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Re: Sustain Pedal - three keyboards

Postby cgrafx » 11 Nov 2021, 18:40

Was just following mtier0067. But I do see now that this is a resurrected thread... lol :)
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