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OnePlus Bullets Z or OPPO Enco M31?

Postby Colt22 » 22 Jun 2021, 08:01

Looking for a Bluetooth Earphones to go with my Nord.
I have been reading great reviews about Oppo Enco M31. But also considering Bullets Z integration with OnePlus Brand.
Help me to settle.
Or any other Bluetooth Earphones you'd recommend? Budget is flexible.
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Re: OnePlus Bullets Z or OPPO Enco M31?

Postby baekgaard » 22 Jun 2021, 08:10

Colt22 wrote:Looking for a Bluetooth Earphones to go with my Nord.
I have been reading great reviews about Oppo Enco M31. But also considering Bullets Z integration with OnePlus Brand.
Help me to settle.
Or any other Bluetooth Earphones you'd recommend? Budget is flexible.
As far as I know, most BT headphones add quite some latency so that it will be annoying. Anything above 10 ms will start to become noticeable - you will feel it when you play. The keyboard feels sluggish.

If you're convinced you want BT, make sure to test out playing your keyboard with them first...



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Re: OnePlus Bullets Z or OPPO Enco M31?

Postby baekgaard » 22 Jun 2021, 08:23

baekgaard wrote:
Colt22 wrote:Looking for a Bluetooth Earphones to go with my Nord.
I have been reading great reviews about Oppo Enco M31. But also considering Bullets Z integration with OnePlus Brand.
Help me to settle.
Or any other Bluetooth Earphones you'd recommend? Budget is flexible.
As far as I know, most BT headphones add quite some latency so that it will be annoying. Anything above 10 ms will start to become noticeable - you will feel it when you play. The keyboard feels sluggish.

If you're convinced you want BT, make sure to test out playing your keyboard with them first...



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Just checked the specs, and the OnePlus latency is normally 400ms whereas the low latency mode is down to 110ms best case. I doubt the Enco are different...

So your best be is too pick wired phones, I think. 110ms is unplayable.

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Re: OnePlus Bullets Z or OPPO Enco M31?

Postby FZiegler » 22 Jun 2021, 10:59

I don't have it, but there are wireless in-ear monitor systems. Just not simple consumer Bluetooth!

They are usually sending/receiving in lower bands, not 2.4 GHz. If you need it wireless, look for those wireless systems (Sennheiser, Shure, LD, ANT...) in combination with a wired in-ear phone.
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Re: OnePlus Bullets Z or OPPO Enco M31?

Postby FZiegler » 22 Jun 2021, 13:28

Or keep your eyes open for Bluetooth "low latency" (probably via the aptX-codec): Both sides of the connection need to be able to "speak" that language.
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Re: OnePlus Bullets Z or OPPO Enco M31?

Postby baekgaard » 22 Jun 2021, 14:13

FZiegler wrote:Or keep your eyes open for Bluetooth "low latency" (probably via the aptX-codec): Both sides of the connection need to be able to "speak" that language.
BT aptX low latency only guarantees less than (out approximately) 40ms pr the spec. That will still be annoying - it's like playing and hearing the sound come from a speaker that is approx 13m away. If you play ambiance it's maybe ok but not helpful for bebop :-)

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Re: OnePlus Bullets Z or OPPO Enco M31?

Postby CountFosco » 22 Jun 2021, 20:08

Colt22 wrote:I have been reading great reviews about Oppo Enco M31.


Were the reviews with respect to general sound quality, or keyboard playing? In my experience (which equates to ~20 seconds x 5ish products, => my experience is pushing close to the two minute mark), bluetooth head/ear- phones are unusable for keyboard playing due to latency. But I'd be more than happy if the 6ishth product was a viable option.
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