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Lounsberry Tall, Fat & Wide pedal

Postby alex78 » 07 Jan 2021, 20:57

Hello everyone, I wish all of you a happy new year with health, freedom and many many gigs!
I was considering getting an OD pedal for some extra gritt to my rock organ and EP's. Watched some youtube videos of the Organ Grinder and the Tall & Fat that are specially designed for organ. They both sound fabulous, but...they are mono and that is probably not good when using the nord's internal lesslie effect that needs stereo to be realistic. I can not afford extra money for a neo ventilator at the moment, in order to take the mono signal of the pedal and output it as stereo to the PA.
But I recently discovered the Tall, Fat & Wide pedal wich is stereo but much more expensive (345€ on thomman while the other two are about 100€ less). Has anybody tried this pedal with his nord? Is it worth the extra money?
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Re: Lounsberry Tall, Fat & Wide pedal

Postby cphollis » 07 Jan 2021, 23:01

I can say that a leslie simulation in stereo is a glorious experience. But stereo isn't an option in many live gigging situations. I can't say whether or not it's worth it to you or your audience.
I think I have gear issues ....
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Re: Lounsberry Tall, Fat & Wide pedal

Postby alex78 » 07 Jan 2021, 23:46

I'm going out in stereo, both my nords on a small behringer mixer sitting on my electro next to the drawbars, a single stereo signal to the main mixer with the rest of the band and from there to FOH when live or to a pair of speakers when rehearsing.
The sound from the nords is awesome as it is, no one ever complained about it. I just thought this pedal could give some extra Gritt and character to the sound. We play hard rock & metal stuff and except from organ and other synth sounds, I also play some distorted guitar parts with my wave. In that occassion this pedal could come in handy when cranked up! The wave's drive is nice in lower settings but over 10o'clock is getting annoying.
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Re: Lounsberry Tall, Fat & Wide pedal

Postby Hlaalu » 04 May 2021, 11:50

Going mono on the NS3 would save you from spending the extra money on the T,F&W, but it wouldn't solve you the problem of having an overdrive pedal before the Leslie sim, which isn't in general where you'd want to have it.

The thing is, the internal Leslie sim is very good but as long as we used it we pretty much cannot put any other pedal after it. The Leslie sim has to come last, apart from reverb of course.

Another thing you could do though to use the T&F AND the Leslie sim at the same time is pretty much what being discussed here: nord-stage-forum-f3/reverb-with-organ-question-t20948-10.html#p142261

On Panel A, you turn the Leslie sim on and that's your Leslie signal. On Panel B you route the organ to ch 3 or 4, then into the T&F, then into another channel of the mixer. Then you mix both signal to taste. Not exactly what you were looking for but a decent compromise perhaps.
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Re: Lounsberry Tall, Fat & Wide pedal

Postby alex78 » 04 May 2021, 20:59

I have read this thread but I could try it only if I had a stage, unfortunatelly I have just a poor electro-4 with no panels and seperate outputs...
I must say also that I have abandoned all the plans for external pedals and stuff at the moment due to the overall situation. If we manage to get bussy again with the rest of the band I will go with what I have, that is not bad at all, just a bit limmiting sometimes.
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Re: Lounsberry Tall, Fat & Wide pedal

Postby anotherscott » 19 May 2021, 15:21

alex78 wrote:I recently discovered the Tall, Fat & Wide pedal wich is stereo but much more expensive (345€ on thomman while the other two are about 100€ less). Has anybody tried this pedal with his nord? Is it worth the extra money?

Since T&F is mono, the way to make it stereo is to have two. So in terms of value, the extra 100€ is basically getting you a second T&F, which seems reasonable. Whether it's worth it depends on the value you place in running your organ-with-T&F in stereo instead of mono. You might also want to try running your existing Nord setup in mono vs. stereo and see how much you prefer the rotary effect in stereo. Also, picking up from what cphollis said, if you're feeding a house PA, note that many of them are mono anyway. Also, you could build on the system over time... You may not want to also spend the money on the Vent right now, but it's also something you could do later, so you could get where you want to in stages. If you're committed to stereo, maybe wait until you're ready to get the Vent first, and maybe add the T&F later.

You also mentioned wanting to use the effect on EPs... it's also worth noting that EP sounds are mono. But they may be played through stereo effects. Likely the same with the distorted guitar sounds from the Wave you mentioned.

Although you don't have a Stage, the Electro 4 does have an option to run organ sounds in mono out the left side, and all your other sounds (in mono) out the right... that would give you a way to put an outboard effect on just the organ, if you ever wanted to do that. But it sounds like, in this case, you want the effect on everything anyway.
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Re: Lounsberry Tall, Fat & Wide pedal

Postby Hlaalu » 19 May 2021, 18:04

He would still have the effect after the rotary simulation though, be it mono or stereo. Anotherscott are you familiar with how the T&F sounds post Leslie?
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Re: Lounsberry Tall, Fat & Wide pedal

Postby anotherscott » 19 May 2021, 19:19

True, T&F will not work as well after the rotary effect as before. I believe there was a youtube video demonstrating. This may also vary with how extereme an effect you're looking to get out of the T&F to begin with.
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