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Re: K & M keyboard stand

Postby ajstan » 17 Jan 2019, 01:25

I’m resurrecting this thread because I just got a K&M 18880 to use while standing with my NS3-88. It didn’t come with the stabilizer bar (I got a very nice price adjustment), but the side-to-side sway is too much for me. I’m using the 10th set of holes to raise it up. Is the 18880 more of a stand for sitting than standing? I’d like to eventually get a second tier (or make one like Rusty Mike) for my Juno-DS61, but want to know if my expectations for side-to-side stability are realistic.

As an alternative, the Stay stands seem neat, but I don’t know if I should get the Piano Series or the Tower Series. The bottom tier for the NS3 needs to be at least 36-37” and the upper tier has to provide sufficiently clearance.

Any thoughts/recommendations would be appreciated.
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Re: K & M keyboard stand

Postby Rusty Mike » 17 Jan 2019, 01:45

I don’t use the bar, as the width doesn’t work well with the Nord. Even when using my 2nd tier. I don’t recall any wobble, but I also play sitting down.

To keep the stance consistent I tied a piece of thick black string at the bottom legs. That way I always open it to the same width.

Base on this thread, I’m going to look into putting a second notch on the brace to use it with the narrower stance. Unfortunately my 2nd tier stands won’t work with the bar. But I don’t play with 2 keyboards very often.
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Re: K & M keyboard stand

Postby ajstan » 17 Jan 2019, 02:59

Thanks, Mike. I noticed that when I had the accordion brace fully extended that the feet of my NS3 rested on one or the other legs of the base unless I shifted the keyboard off-center, which also meant that I would have to take off the braces for the Nord legs that I use when playing sitting. If I get a bar, I’ll probably drill it so I can set it up narrower as well.
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Re: K & M keyboard stand

Postby ajstan » 09 Feb 2019, 17:57

I played my first gig with the 18880 last night. Single board (NS3-88). 35 1/4 inches high using the 10th set of holes. No crossbar. Width 18”.

Wow. It’s a keeper. Really stable. While there is a slight side-to-side movement at this width, I didn’t notice it at all when playing. In fact, I was totally unaware of the stand the entire night - which is the best compliment I can think of for a stand from a playing perspective. When you add in the 10 second setup time and the ability to carry it with one finger, it’s a no-brainer for what I need.

I also bought the 18881 stacker for the second tier. Locks in solid to the base unit with no rattle or play in the connection. I use the middle of the 5 holes to set height and I angle the top board down one notch. The arms extend over the back part of the keys on my bottom board, so I need to set it high enough for clearance as well as visibility to the bottom board.

I would be nice if the arms were about 3” shorter (which would allow me to set the tier lower), but the benefit is that I don’t have to reach forward to play the top tier board. Besides, I’ll only be using the second tier at home for now, so it’s not that big of an issue. I also tried turning the tier backwards, but I didn’t like the extra reach or the extra depth. The 18882 stacker has adjustable arm depth, but the shortest depth appears to be the same as the 18881.

I also have to admit that the design, engineering and materials significantly add to the appeal. Very cool piece of gear.

UPDATE: Adding Pics. Width of stand is 18". Setup as noted in this post.
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