Behringer fcb1010 and Stage 2 program change

All topics involving amplification and other accessories you are using with your Nord, and how all those things work together.
Post Reply
Lilalon
Posts: 4
Joined: 12 Apr 2021, 19:00
4
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 2
Has thanked: 2 times
Great Britain

Behringer fcb1010 and Stage 2 program change

Post by Lilalon »

Hello,
This is my first time posting on the forum.

I'd like to be able to change patches on my Stage 2 using a pedal/footswitch, however I'm aware that only the Stage 3 has a dedicated input for that.

I've found the MidiMouse, a dedicated footswitch that solves my purpose, though it's rather expensive for being a one-trick pony (in my budget).

Would the Behringer fcb1010 work straight with a MIDI cable, or would I need the MIDI Solutions Footswitch (or dual-footswitch) controller (for an extra £100 at least).
If so, why?

In an old forum post on here there was mention of using a separate keyboard (specifically the Korg M50-61) as a waterfall keyboard controller and program change controller. This sounds very promising, though the post was very old and I'm wondering if there have been any more modern advancements that are more economical budget-wise?

Many thanks!
cgrafx
Posts: 1048
Joined: 22 Aug 2015, 08:48
10
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 5
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Stage 3
Location: Northern California
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 367 times
Contact:
United States of America

Re: Behringer fcb1010 and Stage 2 program change

Post by cgrafx »

you can plug the fcb1010 directly into any Nord using a MIDI cable. You don't need any other boxes.

However, weather the fcb1010 can implement Up/Down midi program changes is a different question, and one I don't know the answer to.

The MIDIMouse is specifically programmed to output incremental up or down program change codes ,the FCB would need a function/program mode that does the same increment/decriment program code to work the same way.
Last edited by cgrafx on 13 Apr 2021, 00:27, edited 2 times in total.
Current Gear: NS3C, NP5-88, NP5-73, Alesis QS7.1 & QS8.2, Hammond B3 with Leslie 122, Yamaha CP70, Yamaha C3 6' Grand, Roland D-05
User avatar
FZiegler
Donator
Posts: 2880
Joined: 15 Dec 2019, 02:41
5
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Location: Germany south-west
Has thanked: 837 times
Been thanked: 1002 times
Contact:
Germany

Re: Behringer fcb1010 and Stage 2 program change

Post by FZiegler »

Right, the NS3 has a jack for up/down program change. Which is probably because there is no such thing as MIDI up/down program change, as far as I know.

Have a look into your NS2 manual for the MIDI implementation chart (in fact, it's only a table in the Nord manuals): I don't think, there is more than program change together with CC0 and CC32. Which means you can't toggle between programs, only address programs directly with their number.

Does the FCB1010 support that? Cf. post135165.html?hilit=fcb1010#p135165
Last edited by FZiegler on 13 Apr 2021, 00:35, edited 1 time in total.
Stage-3-C (Rev.B 2.1) - Kawai VPC1 / Viscount Legend 70s / Yamaha CP33 - Hall of Fame & NeoVent2 - Behringer Flow-8 - K&M stands 18820+18811 / 18953+18952 - Samsung Tab S5e, MobileSheetsPro & AirTurn Duo200 - QSC K8.2s / Fischer InEars
Lilalon
Posts: 4
Joined: 12 Apr 2021, 19:00
4
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 2
Has thanked: 2 times
Great Britain

Re: Behringer fcb1010 and Stage 2 program change

Post by Lilalon »

Thanks for the replies. To add to my post, this is the old forum thread I was referencing.
nord-stage-forum-f3/sound-change-with-s ... t1645.html

It seems then that the Midi Solutions footswitch controller is the thing that does the actual program +1/-1, which neither the NS2 or the pedals do by themselves (other than the dedicated MIDI Mouse).

The only benefits of the FCB1010 I can see then are: 1. being able to send dedicated MIDI commands that are not natively available on the front of the NS2, and 2. accessing patches non-sequentially.

The MIDI Mouse seems to be the winner, based on its small footprint and overall lower price (in comparison to buying a footswitch controller + footswitch).
Post Reply