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Sustained notes via midi: is it bug in OS 1.26?

Postby Guest » 28 Sep 2010, 21:51

Hi,
I have bought Nord Piano some week ago. But I have noticed a defect. Using nordpiano as a master via midi by several expander, after a time, a random key remains sustained..I've tried to change pedal, polarity, but it's the same thing...is it a bug in O.S. 1.26?
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Re: Sustained notes via midi: is it bug in OS 1.26?

Postby TNH » 15 Nov 2010, 23:49

had same problem - random notes sustaining into ProTools, Logic, GB, midi external unit , you name it -on both midi out and usb (albeit slightly different symptoms) - after contacting customer support updated to v 1.28 - and now ALL the notes sustain rendering it absolutely useless as a controller - aarrgghh - if you depress sustain pedal that stops it - which is counter intuitive to say the least - and, yes, double checked the pedal settings - a big problem (and btw this happens whether Nord pedal connected or not ) - sort it out please Nord
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Re: Sustained notes via midi: is it bug in OS 1.26?

Postby paulaus » 05 Feb 2011, 15:28

Hi, just recently got the Nord Piano and having the same problem I think with Logic Pro - as soon as sustain pedal is hit all notes are subsequently sustained - the sustain function does not switch off when pedal released - any solution to this?
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Re: Sustained notes via midi: is it bug in OS 1.26?

Postby PianoZac » 22 Feb 2011, 21:43

I bought my NP88 last month and I'm running Logic Studio 8, and the same thing is happening with me as well. As soon as I use the sustain, everything stays sustained. Maybe there's a fix in a future update?
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Re: Sustained notes via midi: is it bug in OS 1.26?

Postby toro.larsson » 23 Feb 2011, 11:24

hi guys.
i'm not experienced in these sequencer programs, so i might not be able to help.
but the first poster has random notes sustaining and you others has all notes sustaining (when using the sustain pedal).

the NS sends midi control change cc064 (sustain) on the actice panel midi channel. could it be that your tracks in the seq prog by accident (or by deufalt) are setup to recieve cc:s on this specific channel (or on ALL midi channels)?

just a thought.

ps. i had earlier problems with hung notes. in my case it turned out to be caused by loose connection... you might wanna check/replace your cables
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Re: Sustained notes via midi: is it bug in OS 1.26?

Postby jazzonebyone » 18 May 2011, 13:41

The NP88 doesn't go down to CC64 value '0' on release of the sustain pedal, only goes down to '1'. A '0' is required for many software instruments, including the ones I need to use ! The Nord does conform to the GM1 specification ('63' or less is 'off') but in the real world a '0' is usually needed.
Has anyone found a reasonable workaround ? I think I can transform the MIDI information with Logic Pro on my studio iMac, but my older gigging laptop runs Logic Express 7, which does not have real-time MIDI transformation.

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Re: Sustained notes via midi: is it bug in OS 1.26?

Postby jazzonebyone » 18 May 2011, 18:43

Ok, Nord is planning to change the 'sustain off' code to '0' in (maybe) the next OS update.
This freeware should be able to fix it the sustain problem in the meantime. It I haven't tried it yet, will probably be next week. It appears that MidiPipe allows you to process the MIDI stream in some interesting ways in real time.

http://web.mac.com/nicowald/SubtleSoft/MidiPipe.html
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Re: Sustained notes via midi: is it bug in OS 1.26?

Postby jazzonebyone » 19 May 2011, 15:29

Use MidiPipe's Applescript Trigger.
Insert this text :

on runme(message)
if (item 1 of message = 176) and (item 2 of message = 64) and (item 3 of message > 63) then set message to {176,64,127}
if (item 1 of message = 176) and (item 2 of message = 64) and (item 3 of message < 64) then set message to {176,64,0}
return message
end runme

This condenses the sustain pedal values to either '0' or '127'

I almost forgot - this only fixes Macs. Maybe PC's have a midi editor, too. But I don't know much about PC's.
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