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analogika wrote:Here is a direct comparison of Stage 3 and Stage 2 organs, no Leslie, no EQ, all FX off.

They are both set to "Vintage 1", 888000000.

There is a subtle difference in the higher notes, but they are basically the same thing.

Many clones will be very similar in this scenario. For example, here is a Stage 2 and a Numa Organ.



It is in the "enhancements" to the basic drawbar sounds where the clones most differentiate themselves... i.e. the rotary sims, overdrive, leakage, key click, percussion. You can also hear more difference as more drawbars are engaged (i.e. easier to hear a difference in 888888888 than in 888000000). Also, there can be differences in overall balance across the keyboard, which you can tell when playing things across the whole board at once, as opposed to comparing region-by-region. So, as similar as your test shows them to be (or as similar as the NS2 and Numa appear to be in much of that video), there can still be very noticeable differences which you would hear in more "challenging" comparisons.

The main point for me was that the fullness of the organ tone itself is the same, not that they sound subtly different. When the Leslie is on, the Stage 2 maintains this full tone, while on the Stage 3, the bass is carved out when the Leslie is switched on.

analogika wrote:The main point for me was that the fullness of the organ tone itself is the same, not that they sound subtly different. When the Leslie is on, the Stage 2 maintains this full tone, while on the Stage 3, the bass is carved out when the Leslie is switched on.

Yep -- and thanks for doing the test; appreciated!

B3 really punches through now. Sounds way more like the Electro 5 I just sold to my friend.

I too was very disappointed in the organ section of my Stage 3 compact and was waiting for this fix to arrive.
I found myself not even playing the organ tones I was so bummed.

Well I just downloaded and installed the new update 1.32 and we are back in business! Probably not in the realm of a MoJo, but as good if not better than my old SK1-73.
If you need more from this Nord organ now, you may have to spring for a Vent. I won't be doing that!

Yes an excellent Xmas gift from Nord.

Cheers
Paul

Fallboard wrote:B3 really punches through now. Sounds way more like the Electro 5 I just sold to my friend.

Hallelujah, this is what I was waiting to hear. I know this is a NS forum and most of the comps have been between the NS2 and NS3, but I'm looking to upgrade from my NE5D-73 to a NS3C.

I was also hoping to use a 88-key weighted controller (plus external synth module?) and to have all patches for both keyboards (external module) set with with one NS3C Song program... not sure I can get to this yet, with the external controller velocity issue and the new Dual KB setup, but I'm getting close to taking the NS3C plunge

DanielD71 wrote:Just sent an email asking if they can add the option via software (put the reverb at the end of the audio path,so after the Leslie).

Regards

I had a reply from Clavia and due to the signal path and fx routing, this cannot be done.
I’m ok with that answer. During the first videos of the stage 3, Staffan mentionned it and I decided back then to buy it.
So I’ll have to get use to it

Regards

DanielD71 wrote:

DanielD71 wrote:Just sent an email asking if they can add the option via software (put the reverb at the end of the audio path,so after the Leslie).

Regards

I had a reply from Clavia and due to the signal path and fx routing, this cannot be done.
I’m ok with that answer. During the first videos of the stage 3, Staffan mentionned it and I decided back then to buy it.
So I’ll have to get use to it

Then the next question would be to able to disable it using a software-switch/setting (for organ).

I'd rather use organ without reverb and have it on other sections then have this strange (IMHO) sound thru the Leslie.

On Stage 2, the Reverb is after the Organ or before? I have never checked...

Quai34 wrote:On Stage 2, the Reverb is after the Organ or before? I have never checked...

On the Nords I owned, the reverb was at the end of the signal path and FX routing for all engines on NS2, NS2ex, and Electro 5D.

The reverb is before the Leslie on the C2.

Now on the NS3, the reverb is before the Leslie as well.

Regards