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Re: CPS Spacestation XL

Postby KyleM » 13 May 2017, 10:30

cphollis wrote:KyleM -- I own two of the current Spacestation V3. Not anything like you say. Go check out the 183-page thread over at Keyboard Corner, then come back and share your thoughts.

I am lucky enough to have a sizable inventory of self-powered PA units (2xQSC K8, 2xQSC K10, 2xQSC K12, 2xFA 12ac, 2xRCF TT08a). For small venues and rehearsals, the CPS SSv3 is quite unique in what it does. Not for everyone, but nothing else has the same secret sauce. Many loyal fans, including me.

The few people who have heard the XL have described it as just like the SSv3, only bigger and louder. And there's going to be a market for that. Yes, it will have to compete more intensely with a pair of self-powered PAs, but it will have an advantage in being able to surround the audience in a unique way.

I may buy one out of sheer curiosity.


Btw, thanks for the reply and I'm chiseling through the 183 page post on Keyboard Corner. Yowsers! It sounds like they do something nothing else really can do, so they can charge a premium: I can't afford one of them lol. Let alone 2. I'll probably end up going with used QSC. K10 or K12 partially dependent on what you say, and I will most likely get them used. I could see myself adding a Spacestation down the line to try it out, once I start making money.
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Re: CPS Spacestation XL

Postby cphollis » 13 May 2017, 12:51

I too had a negative experience with the Motion Sound KBR 3D or whatever it was called. Mine's for sale if anyone wants it. Awkward to lug, sucked at APs, and the leslie sound didn't scale to band volumes.

It's hard to answer what's better, more about what tool is right for the job. I play a lot of small venues. Hauling in a pair of K series, putting them on poles, and placing them in the optimum position just ain't happening. Larger stages and rooms, sure. Again, different tools for different situations.

The best way to place an SSv3 is using a small amp stand, sideways, side-firing speaker facing down. No harsh sounds beaming out the side. Full, rich stereo everywhere.

You asked about B3 organ sounds? Do you play with a stereo leslie sim? KILLER. Crank up the width control, and the whole room swirls with leslie. Lots of organ players would say the same thing, unless they're hauling around a real Leslie.

DPs, synths, etc. sound great. APs take a bit of work. Bass is good down to about 80-100 Hz, which is more than enough unless I'm using bass pedals or doing bass lines on synth. Bring a small sub if that's the case.

The challenge with a pair of self-powered PA units is that you have to aim them somewhere. And if you're not in the sweet spot, too bad for you. Not the case with the SSv3. And it can get very loud. Used ones are going for around $650 these days. Check out the garage sale section on the Keyboard Corner forum, they show up from time to time.

More here: http://chucksblog.typepad.com/late_bloo ... on-v3.html

The cheap-yet-adequate solution to stereo would be a pair of ElectroVoice ZXA1-90 units. People say they do the job. And you can get them for a lot less than the $499 list if you call around. Some folks like the Altos, I have no opinion either way.
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Re: CPS Spacestation XL

Postby KyleM » 13 May 2017, 16:45

Awesome thanks for the input. I am somewhat swayed toward the space station now. I definitely couldn't afford two, but a used/new one might be feasible (if I can finance it.) I would love to hear them in person... I have a Nord Stage 2 and that's the only organ. I listened to a binaural recording of the Spacestation in some headphones and it was pretty convincing. I would almost have to had a sub so I will probably be relegated to a pair of cheap pa speakers (if not only 1) and after I start said some money jump into the Spacestation. You definitely chsnged my mind as far as considering them...thanks a lot
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Re: CPS Spacestation XL

Postby cphollis » 13 May 2017, 21:36

One SSv3 is all you need. The Nord organs sound amazing to me, hard to imagine better without hauling a real Leslie, and even then :) You're going to get reasonable bass, not solid bass. I get the $$$ situation, but cheap PA speakers sound, well, cheap. Very annoying to my ears.

What got expensive for me was buying and selling gear that didn't work out. Save up and get something that does the job?
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