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Re: output mono or stereo NE5?

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Rdanl wrote:
ericL wrote:The Electro 5 will send both the Upper and Lower sounds out of one jack. I have not tested each jack separately, but using the Left out for rehearsals (gigs in stereo) and I get both Upper and Lower sounds from the Left output jack with no problem.
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Where you in stereo mode?
Maybe in stereo mode its left output function as mono the same way that it does in my roland keyboard that goes everytime in stereo mode ( there is no mono mode or other way of setting sound output) but if you put the jack only on the left output they this out function as a mono output. :thumbup:
This make more sense that not having a mono mode at all, simply is not well documented but this is not a big news .... :mrgreen: . I donnt use mono very often but when you are doing very small gigs it could came in handy expecially when the foh mix is a very small one..
You're welcome. As far as I understand it, the Mono button on the NE5 is only applicable to the Piano sounds and sums them to Mono. To answer your question, when I've used the NE5 with only the Left output jack, both sounds will pass through this whether that Mono button is engaged or not. So there is no special toggle in the NE5 that determines this, other than the one that allows the user to specifically assign Upper to one output and Lower to the other. The benefit of doing this would be running one of the sound sources into an outboard effect, e.g. Ventilator, but comes at the expense of losing the stereo output and effects. I believe there has been a discussion of this in another thread.
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Re: output mono or stereo NE5?

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No mono mix out? This is hard to believe. I thought if you use either of the two outs, you will get mono.

However, it may be that if you use only say left out, you are getting left stereo signal for both lower and upper part. That would be disaster. That would mean you need a small mixer in order to be able to use normal mono amp.

Has anyone actually tested this?
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Re: output mono or stereo NE5?

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Mantrak wrote:No mono mix out? This is hard to believe. I thought if you use either of the two outs, you will get mono.

However, it may be that if you use only say left out, you are getting left stereo signal for both lower and upper part. That would be disaster. That would mean you need a small mixer in order to be able to use normal mono amp.
Most stereo keyboards do sum to mono, usually using the Left output jack by custom (doesn't usually work for Right jack!) but not Nord. I can't say specifically for the NE5, but the jacks are just labelled Left and Right with no /Mono text, so it's pretty certain that there's no Mono sum output. The manual doesn't say anything about a mono summed output, so it looks like this feature is still missing.
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Re: output mono or stereo NE5?

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If there is a 'mono' function/button on the Nord Electro 5, like there is on my Nord Stage 2,
then this will most certainly behave the same way: output a summed L+R through both L & R outputs.
In this way, I can imagine that there is no need to have extra logic in the output circuitry,
which has to check if there is only one jack inserted...
Therefore, pure L /R outputs are sufficient, isn't it?
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Re: output mono or stereo NE5?

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Graspieper wrote:If there is a 'mono' function/button on the Nord Electro 5, like there is on my Nord Stage 2,
then this will most certainly behave the same way: output a summed L+R through both L & R outputs.
In this way, I can imagine that there is no need to have extra logic in the output circuitry,
which has to check if there is only one jack inserted...
Therefore, pure L /R outputs are sufficient, isn't it?
Not quite, I'm afraid. The Mono button in the Piano section is for piano sounds only, it doesn't sum any of the other sounds. Also, I believe the Mono button doesn't just sum the piano to mono, it's supposed to do "something" to reduce the effects of phase cancellation that you can get with ordinary summing of a stereo-recorded piano sound.
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Re: output mono or stereo NE5?

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If you want to "mono" your mix, get the Radial JDI Duplex. You can feed two stereo channels into it, and then there is a button which "sums" the mix into one mono channel. Plus the Radial JDI Duplex comes with Jensen transformers, so that's probably the best direct box out there anyway. And it comes with a bunch of other handy features :)
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Re: output mono or stereo NE5?

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I have just tested this.

If you are in the stereo mode and you plug only one jack, you will have summed mono. Does not matter which, left or right. Which is nice, except that apparently everybody is confused. I guess people are used to see MONO label on the one of the outputs. For the NE6 I suggest outputs to be labeled like this: LEFT/MONO, RIGHT/MONO.

If you are in the split mode (Lower=Left, Upper=Right) than the signals are always separated. The funny thing is that the reverb goes only to the LOWER part (left output). Normally, left is used for bass, so I don't get it. Must be an error or something. If I were to choose I would give it to the UPPER part, or better, to make it selectable. If this can be made by software release they should certainly do it.
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Re: output mono or stereo NE5?

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Mantrak wrote:I have just tested this.

If you are in the stereo mode and you plug only one jack, you will have summed mono. Does not matter which, left or right. Which is nice, except that apparently everybody is confused.
Strange... that it is not how it works in the NS2. Even confirmed by the Nord guys some time ago. But of course NS2 and NE5 are different instruments.
Did you do a spectrogram to confirm this?
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Re: output mono or stereo NE5?

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So, is it possible to plug both left and right outputs into a single amp? Or will it sound strange?
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Re: output mono or stereo NE5?

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On further reading above, it seems you can get summed mono signal if you're still in stereo mode. I will try tonight, hope that's the case!
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