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Stevie Wonder, impossible to play with one guy on keys?

Postby Quai34 » 01 Mar 2017, 10:34

Ok, I Wish, Clav part plus E. Piano plus brass: how do you do it?
Same thing, Superstition, Clav has 2 parts plus brass, same question
Higher ground, two Clav parts I think unless it's a delayed one on the other side of the stereo field?
So, you are alone, which part do you do with only two hands and no brass section?
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Re: Stevie Wonder, impossible to play with one guy on keys?

Postby thefingers » 01 Mar 2017, 15:55

Quai34 wrote:Ok, I Wish, Clav part plus E. Piano plus brass: how do you do it?
Same thing, Superstition, Clav has 2 parts plus brass, same question
Higher ground, two Clav parts I think unless it's a delayed one on the other side of the stereo field?
So, you are alone, which part do you do with only two hands and no brass section?


Good question.

Superstition

Clav:
Yes, there are indeed 2 parts to the Clav that Stevie plays. They are similar but have a few different licks. The key to getting this as right as possible with only one keyboard is picking up those licks.
Keep to the main riff but drop in a bit of the other part too to give it that lovely percussive groove. I have attached the 2 Clav parts for reference. Let the Guitar (if available) pick up some of the slack and also focus on the main riff.

Brass:
For the brass, just find a suitable patch and then drop that in when needed.

What I do:
Using a 2 piece split (Stage 2 76), I open the track with a 2-handed Clav part to set the scene. Guitar joins in and focuses on the main riff. When it's Brass time, I play a variation on the Clav (as above) and use the left hand for the brass. Seems to work ok.


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Re: Stevie Wonder, impossible to play with one guy on keys?

Postby Arti99 » 01 Mar 2017, 16:08

Hi thefingers,

Is it you who plays MP3? It's really great.
Is it the NS2's clavinet sound?
If you play on the NS2, you can post your patch and an explanation video because it is really good

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Re: Stevie Wonder, impossible to play with one guy on keys?

Postby OrpheusNY » 01 Mar 2017, 16:16

Quai34, you may find the first 2:48 of this video interesting:

https://youtu.be/uGoP_HizeMY

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Re: Stevie Wonder, impossible to play with one guy on keys?

Postby thefingers » 01 Mar 2017, 17:01

Arti99 wrote:Hi thefingers,

Is it you who plays MP3? It's really great.
Is it the NS2's clavinet sound?
If you play on the NS2, you can post your patch and an explanation video because it is really good

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Hi Arti99,

You have a good ear Sir. :thumbup: This is in fact Stevie himself. 8-)
They are the 2 main Clav parts from the original Masters.
You can't get a better reference point...
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Re: Stevie Wonder, impossible to play with one guy on keys?

Postby Arti99 » 01 Mar 2017, 18:11

I also said to myself it looks like the original.
Already in the mix I found it formidable. But then it is terrible. What a groove he has, this Stevie.

Another question: How did you get the tracks isolated from the master? Have you the other tracks? If you have all the other tracks I want them well ... the dream: to be able to mix a song of stevie!

It is clear I will be able to work both parts!

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Re: Stevie Wonder, impossible to play with one guy on keys?

Postby Quai34 » 01 Mar 2017, 18:46

Thanks a lot guys, yes, good idea for the guitar coming in to do the "Clav groove" part to help when I use one of my hand for the brass...He should be able to do it because they played it before I joined but ditch the song (the 3 songs) because without a keys player, it was not sounding good.
Bye. Thanks again, I know where to start now.
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Re: Stevie Wonder, impossible to play with one guy on keys?

Postby harmonizer » 02 Mar 2017, 03:46

Interesting cover of "Superstition" which is guitar-heavy, and unapologetic about being different from the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nmKs34yZ0c
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Re: Stevie Wonder, impossible to play with one guy on keys?

Postby Quai34 » 02 Mar 2017, 05:53

@ Orpheus.
Thanks for the video, I had seen it but didn't remember that the 3 songs was in...good starting point anyway plus some infos on the sounds used...
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