While building an iPad editor template to be able to have an easier user interface for sound design, I ran into a few small things:
When editing the 3P hardware:
– When Tone Wave is not set to A1 or T1, the Tone Frequency range runs from "00" to "49", then "--" then "51" to "99". Expected: "--" should read "50"
– When changing the Tone Wave parameter, the Tone Frequency parameter jumps to the -- value. Expected: when changing the Tone Wave parameter, the Tone frequency parameter should not change (unless A1 or T1 is chosen as Tone Wave setting).
When Local Control is off:
When changing the Tone Wave parameter, MIDI CC 46 AND MIDI CC 30 are send out. The values of CC 46 are seemingly random (so not in order from 0 to 127). For instance selecting the first Wave, A1, sends out value 74, A2 value 83, A3 value 77, A4 value 80, A5 value 115...
Expected: MIDI CC 30 should not be sended at all. MIDI CC46 should send out values ranging from 0 to 127 in steps of 128/34 (there are 34 values for the Tone Wave parameter).
When Local control is on:
When changing the Tone Wave parameter on the 3P, only MIDI CC 46 is send out (correct), but still in that random order. Expected: MIDI CC46 should send out values ranging from 0 to 127 in steps of 128/34 (there are 34 values for the Tone Wave parameter).
Because of this behavior I can not select the full range of Waves from my editor.
The Tone Pitch values run from 0.0 to 127.5 in steps of 0.5 on the 3P screen. If I count correctly, there are 256 values. However, no matter what I do with my MIDI controller, when sending MIDI CC 63 and 31 with 256 steps, I do not get the right values in the display of the 3P. Is the full range of the MSB/LSB used? I just can not figure it out... I start with 0 and end with 127,5, but in-between steps jump from xx.0 to xx+1.0 instead of xx.5.
Hopefully someone at Nord can look into these things so I can finish the editor and post it here. It works like a charm so far. I can edit all 6 channels without trouble, straight from my iPad. Wireless over WIFI.
One other benefit: there is a randomize function
Here is a screenshot of the template as it looks right now:
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Re: Nord Drum 3P firmware 1.04 bugs
what are you using to feed this wifi'd midi data stream to the Nord?
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Re: Nord Drum 3P firmware 1.04 bugs
Roland UM-ONE MK2 MIDI interface between MacBook and Nord Drum 3P.
On the Mac I have MIDI Monitor installed so I can see what messages come in and what goes out.
Software on the iPad with which the template is created is TB MIDI Stuff.
On the Mac I have MIDI Monitor installed so I can see what messages come in and what goes out.
Software on the iPad with which the template is created is TB MIDI Stuff.
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oh, I thought perhaps you had some new awesome device for ipad to nord via wifi (without additional computer in the middle)
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Re: Nord Drum 3P firmware 1.04 bugs
yes, that really caught my eye
Bomes is supposed to be coming out with something soon which may do this and quite a lot more -- can't wait!
Bomes is supposed to be coming out with something soon which may do this and quite a lot more -- can't wait!
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Re: Nord Drum 3P firmware 1.04 bugs
Hi bgerkes!
I don't have the 3P, but I do recognise some of the things you mention from my experience the ND2..
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I don't have the 3P, but I do recognise some of the things you mention from my experience the ND2..
I think that's the Spectra parameter, with range 0-99, and "--" = centre position, the unchanged/ starting point waveform so to say.bgerkes wrote:– When Tone Wave is not set to A1 or T1, the Tone Frequency range runs from "00" to "49", then "--" then "51" to "99". Expected: "--" should read "50"
The ND2 does the same, it jumps back to default position when you change the waveform, not a bug I think,..bgerkes wrote:– When changing the Tone Wave parameter, the Tone Frequency parameter jumps to the -- value. Expected: when changing the Tone Wave parameter, the Tone frequency parameter should not change (unless A1 or T1 is chosen as Tone Wave setting).
bgerkes wrote:When Local Control is off: When changing the Tone Wave parameter, MIDI CC 46 AND MIDI CC 30 are send out.
CC46 is 'Tone wave' waveform selection, CC30 is the Spectra parameter. If you ONLY change the waveform, what CC30 value does it send?bgerkes wrote:Expected: MIDI CC 30 should not be sended at all.
bgerkes wrote:The values of CC 46 are seemingly random (so not in order from 0 to 127). For instance selecting the first Wave, A1, sends out value 74, A2 value 83, A3 value 77, A4 value 80, A5 value 115...
bgerkes wrote:MIDI CC46 should send out values ranging from 0 to 127 in steps of 128/34 (there are 34 values for the Tone Wave parameter).
This is the same I think with the ND2, you will have to use a table for these 'random' values.bgerkes wrote:When Local control is on:
When changing the Tone Wave parameter on the 3P, only MIDI CC 46 is send out (correct), but still in that random order. Expected: MIDI CC46 should send out values ranging from 0 to 127 in steps of 128/34 (there are 34 values for the Tone Wave parameter).Because of this behavior I can not select the full range of Waves from my editor.
Try to find out what your 3P sends, how do the MSB and LSB change while you increase Pitch step by step?bgerkes wrote:The Tone Pitch values run from 0.0 to 127.5 in steps of 0.5 on the 3P screen. If I count correctly, there are 256 values. However, no matter what I do with my MIDI controller, when sending MIDI CC 63 and 31 with 256 steps, I do not get the right values in the display of the 3P. Is the full range of the MSB/LSB used? I just can not figure it out... I start with 0 and end with 127,5, but in-between steps jump from xx.0 to xx+1.0 instead of xx.5.
Cheers,
Albert
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Re: Nord Drum 3P firmware 1.04 bugs
pablomastodon wrote:yes, that really caught my eye
Bomes is supposed to be coming out with something soon which may do this and quite a lot more -- can't wait!
Yes they say the fall of 2016 which is a month or so away now.
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