So, I got some Alesis pads, which I thought were thoroughly horrible, and then I decided to get two Roland PD-8s instead, since each one is dual zone. The problem is, I can't figure out what would be the way you'd hook them up in order to get the capabilities out of both zones. The pad itself has a single TRS output, so should I use a TRS in / 2x TRS out adapter or a TRS in / 2x TS adapter? Either way, I can't get the rim zone to work properly, and striking directly on the pad triggers both channels that I have the drum hooked up to.
Also, I jacked with all the Threshold/Sensitivity/Trigger settings and I don't see a way to reset the factory defaults - any ideas there?
Joe
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Re: Roland PD-8s to trigger Nord Drum?
hej_joe wrote:So, I got some Alesis pads, which I thought were thoroughly horrible, and then I decided to get two Roland PD-8s instead, since each one is dual zone. The problem is, I can't figure out what would be the way you'd hook them up in order to get the capabilities out of both zones. The pad itself has a single TRS output, so should I use a TRS in / 2x TRS out adapter or a TRS in / 2x TS adapter? Either way, I can't get the rim zone to work properly, and striking directly on the pad triggers both channels that I have the drum hooked up to.
Also, I jacked with all the Threshold/Sensitivity/Trigger settings and I don't see a way to reset the factory defaults - any ideas there?
Joe
Hello Joe,
Even though each of the 4 trigger inputs of the Nord Drum (ND) will function with either TRS or TS connectors, they are only single inputs.
The TRS to 2 X TS adapter won't work unless wired correctly.
The head piezo polarity is opposite that of the rim piezo.
(this will cause triggering issues)
Page 6 of the manual has information on how to change the input(s) sensitivity.
Cheers, Hanon
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Re: Roland PD-8s to trigger Nord Drum?
Great info!
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Re: Roland PD-8s to trigger Nord Drum?
good info here can anybody think of a way you can get this to work just making a custom cable?
From the diagram posted it looks like the changes would need to be made to the pd8 output wiring to get this working.
I'd much rather customise a cable if possible
From the diagram posted it looks like the changes would need to be made to the pd8 output wiring to get this working.
I'd much rather customise a cable if possible
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Re: Roland PD-8s to trigger Nord Drum?
garjam wrote:good info here can anybody think of a way you can get this to work just making a custom cable?
From the diagram posted it looks like the changes would need to be made to the pd8 output wiring to get this working.
I'd much rather customise a cable if possible
Hello garjam,
Welcome to the forums
I don't think it's possible since the shield of the Rim Piezo is internally (inside the PD-8) connected to the signal lead of the Head Piezo.
I hope that I'm wrong though.
Cheers, Hanon
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Re: Roland PD-8s to trigger Nord Drum?
This looks easy (ha!)
Tip is the head piezo, ring is the rim piezo. I know not much about the Nord Drum, but if it's anything like my ddrum4, all you'd need to do is break stereo out into mono and you'd be done. So a simple TRS stereo female to two TS mono male connector would work. Actually, if the Roland has a female TRS as it looks like in that diagram, you could use a simple insert cable like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-STP201-Dual- ... B000068O1N
Tip is the head piezo, ring is the rim piezo. I know not much about the Nord Drum, but if it's anything like my ddrum4, all you'd need to do is break stereo out into mono and you'd be done. So a simple TRS stereo female to two TS mono male connector would work. Actually, if the Roland has a female TRS as it looks like in that diagram, you could use a simple insert cable like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-STP201-Dual- ... B000068O1N
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Re: Roland PD-8s to trigger Nord Drum?
bdodds wrote:This looks easy (ha!)
Tip is the head piezo, ring is the rim piezo.
Look again. (phasing/ polarity)
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Re: Roland PD-8s to trigger Nord Drum?
Hi Hanon,
after some extensive cable modding trying all combinations it can't be done at the cable side.
best you can get is 1 side triggers a single pad but the other triggers both pads.
there is no way to get 2 seperate triggers without internally rewiring the PD-8.
Guess I'll just need to get 4 pads instead of 2 :S
after some extensive cable modding trying all combinations it can't be done at the cable side.
best you can get is 1 side triggers a single pad but the other triggers both pads.
there is no way to get 2 seperate triggers without internally rewiring the PD-8.
Guess I'll just need to get 4 pads instead of 2 :S
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Re: Roland PD-8s to trigger Nord Drum?
Hanon_CTS wrote:Look again. (phasing/ polarity)
I was in a hurry, trying to leave work, and rescuing puppies from a burning building, I had to look fast!
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Re: Roland PD-8s to trigger Nord Drum?
Thanks a lot for the information!
Is this rewiring of the PD-8 a larger surgical operation or is it completely duable if you're able to operate a soldering iron fairly well? I haven't been able to find any guides by googling the issue so I was hoping someone here had the time and knowledge to post a quick walk-through.
Also, do the rest of Roland's (and other producents') trigger pads produce the electrical signal polar-reversed on rimshots as well, or would you be able to split the signal into two monos with an adapter?
Is this rewiring of the PD-8 a larger surgical operation or is it completely duable if you're able to operate a soldering iron fairly well? I haven't been able to find any guides by googling the issue so I was hoping someone here had the time and knowledge to post a quick walk-through.
Also, do the rest of Roland's (and other producents') trigger pads produce the electrical signal polar-reversed on rimshots as well, or would you be able to split the signal into two monos with an adapter?
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