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Realistic Church organ sounds...

Postby lutonbod » 02 May 2012, 11:10

Dear all,

I work in a school and we have recently purchased a Stage 2 and to say were impressed is an understatement.. However ! We use the Organ in our chapel services and from the default patches I'm struggling to find a full range church organ "sounding" patch.

Most of the patches either sound like were at a baseball game or at the fair... Does anyone have or can point me to a genuine sounding church organ patch...

Many thanks in advance!

Matt
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Realistic Church organ sounds...


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Re: Realistic Church organ sounds...

Postby bdodds » 03 May 2012, 22:24

Two questions:

1. are you referring to the included programs that use the Organ section of the instrument, or the organs that are included in the samples within the Synth section? There are a few impressive pipe organ samples in the Synth section, but they're bombastic all-stops type sounds.
2. what types of organ are you trying to emulate? if you're going for a pipe organ with the ability to control stops or are you looking for more Gospel sounding electromechanical organ sounds? Fully-articulated pipe organ is going to be difficult, but not impossible, to accomplish on this since you'll need to utilize the sample functionality and probably delve into the world of making samples. However, the latter will work perfectly if what you want to do is emulate a classic B-3 Gospel sound.
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Re: Realistic Church organ sounds...

Postby lutonbod » 09 May 2012, 09:59

Hi Bods...

thanks for your in depth reply. I'm sort of referreing to both, basically we p[urchased the keyboard for its ability to act as both an organ (emuklating a pipe organ) and as a stage piano. We have been using some of the built in organ sounds but theyre just ont quite close enough to a pipe organ and i was wondring if anyone has created some organ programmes?

I downloaded the samples from the link below but am pretty new to the stage 2 and havent quite worked out how to create programmes from samples yet and kid of figured someone else would have done so ?

post7223.html?hilit=church organ#p7223

Is it fairly straight forward to creat programmes from samples as they manual is a little cryptic...

Many thanks

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Re: Realistic Church organ sounds...

Postby bdodds » 09 May 2012, 15:40

It's very simple to make programs with samples in them - what you want to do is turn off the organ and piano sections and enable just the synth section. Then hold the shift key and tap "Sound Init" in the synth section. Then, tap the oscillator selection button until the arrow is lit next to SAMP. Then, use the knob in the oscillator section to find the sample you want to play. That's it. Then, you can save the program by tapping the red save button twice (assuming memory protection is turned off), or if you don't want to overwrite the spot you're in, hit shift-save, potentially change the name, then save again to choose a place to put it (and therefore overwrite the program you choose) and hit save again. Alternately you can use one of the live spots to save it dynamically, no save buttons needed.

This is all a bit from memory, so hopefully it doesn't vary much, if at all, from reality. So to clarify what the Stage 2 does, it is really built to model the Hammond B-3 (and other transistor organs, but they're not what you're after) rather than a pipe organ. The Hammond, of course, was originally built to emulate a pipe organ, but anyone who has played a pipe organ will know that's not really what they accomplished. The Hammond has its own sound that is a cornerstone of jazz, rock and blues, and to a certain extent worship, but realistically the Hammond in a worship context is there to sound like the Hammonds of yesterday sounded where they were used to take the place of pipe organs. I can't speak to Hammond in this context because I have virtually no experience with it, but if you search youtube for videos of people playing Hammond in a gospel context it may become a bit more clear what I'm talking about.

The only board I know of that takes a stab at proper pipe organ is the C1/C2/C2D, which have a pipe organ model, but I'm not sure even how much closer this will get you to what you're looking for.
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