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Re: Thinking about a dedicated B3 signal chain on the NS3

Postby Quai34 » 13 Feb 2018, 10:17

Any pictures or schematic? I' not sure I follow...
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Re: Thinking about a dedicated B3 signal chain on the NS3

Postby mtier0067 » 15 Feb 2018, 23:48

I have a gig tonight that I can take some pics at. The mini leslie isn’t coming though:(
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Re: Thinking about a dedicated B3 signal chain on the NS3

Postby Quai34 » 17 Feb 2018, 08:40

By the way, I've just read again the manual and cannot find what output you need to use for a mono out, I mean, for the C2, not the Stage series...is it the right one or the left one? And I've watched online the Loundsberry pedals, Tall & Fat and the Organ Grinder, they are awesome...Thanks for the info...
Never mind for the output, I found the answer:
nord-c1-c2-c2d-organ-forum-f13/c2-stereo-output-t6790.html

At Chuck:
So, I don't know what you will do, but I'm pretty sold on this:
C2 mono out goes to Lounsberry pedals (Both, not sure? I want to compete with my guitarist...Two pedals on an Organ, whooo....) goes to Vent 2 and goes to TC Hall of Fame (200$ for the Lounsberry+500$ for the Vent+150$, maybe less, 110$ used for the Hall of Fame = 850$...OUch!!!).
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Re: Thinking about a dedicated B3 signal chain on the NS3

Postby cphollis » 17 Feb 2018, 12:49

Quai34:

I'm already there for the Vent II and the TC Electronics Hall of Fame 2 reverb. Where I am debating is to go with one of the cost-effective pedals you've mentioned, or go get a real-deal tube pre-amp for even more $$$.

I'm going to have to build a pedal board and mount everything (along with the Key Largo) as a "third tier" on my stand as I'll want to be able to get to the knobs easily during a gig.
I think I have gear issues ....
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Re: Thinking about a dedicated B3 signal chain on the NS3

Postby Hobster » 17 Feb 2018, 19:10

If you want a real-deal tube pedal rather than the Lounsberrys, perhaps take a look at the Reußenzehn Organ & Groove II...
http://www.reussenzehn.de/de/musiker/or ... oove-2.php (you'll need to brush up on your german...)

It's demo'ed against the Organ Driver (& others) in this video (O&G is at 5:05):
https://youtu.be/1ZqGWp8wYTc

Must admit, I'm considering getting one (if I can justify the cost else I may just go for a Tall & Fat) to go in front of my Vent 2...

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Re: Thinking about a dedicated B3 signal chain on the NS3

Postby cphollis » 17 Feb 2018, 19:41

Yeah, I think that's a great comparison video. My only wish would be to *not* be playing through a real Leslie as that colors the sound somewhat. My favorite would be the Organ & Groove II, which would be ~$500 US by the time everything was done. Or about as much as my Vent II.

I spent the morning experimenting with NS3C B3 mono -> Vent II -> dedicated stereo mixer channels with reverb and came away pretty happy for now. The "tube sim" in the Vent II really isn't all that bad.
I think I have gear issues ....
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Re: Thinking about a dedicated B3 signal chain on the NS3

Postby Hobster » 17 Feb 2018, 21:10

Yeah, I'm currently running my NS3C thru output 3 into the Vent II and then into a really ancient PicoVerb (using its 3L/4R stereo delay preset; something I've been using after leslie sims for around 15 years!) and am really happy with things as they are too :)
I'd like to try the O&G II or the T&F with my setup to see if they really are that much better than the Vent II's overdrive, but it doesn't look like that'll be possible anywhere here in the UK :(
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Re: Thinking about a dedicated B3 signal chain on the NS3

Postby Quai34 » 17 Feb 2018, 21:20

Hi all,
Ok, good for the Vent 2 + Hall of Fame, you are a step ahead with the Vent 2....I'm not going to spend 500$ again on a real tube pedal and the size is too big....I measured the room I have on my C2 and it works, the small enclosure of the Lounsberry will be just between the last controls of the panel on the right side of the C2 and the Ocean Beach Drawbars....Good...And for the Vent 2, I will use a little 3D support that I had bought for the streichfett and that goes on a gooseneck and is attached under the C2 with a clip and a screw....It's just sit on the right (Edited, Left side in fact) side of the C2, perfect....I cannot build a 3rd tier, I have already one for the prophets....
Ok, thanks Chuck for the try, I will bought the Vent 2 (just need to save $$, I had to bring one of my guitars AmpS yesterday for repair, tube broken...) and I will see if I'm happy with the OD of the Vent 2....For the burden of more cables to install, I don't fold my platform stand anyway, I put it on the back of a truck or a van so, cables stay attached to it (like all power cables and extra small 1/4 inch connections ones...) so, the Vent 2 could stay attached to it as well...
Thanks all for the great infos, it helps a lot...
Suncerely
By the way, PicoVerb from Alesis right?
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Re: Thinking about a dedicated B3 signal chain on the NS3

Postby mtier0067 » 17 Feb 2018, 22:02

I do need to post some pictures... I went through so so so many iterations with my rig to get it where it is today. I'll try to get them up here soon. The gig had stage lights on during set up so everything looks crazy and hard to see whats really going on. I absolutely love it though and it'll be hard to convince me that another way of setting up is better for non roadie situations.

The T&F just adds an extra bit of juicy woody tone that you don't quite get with the Vent II. Is it worth 200? Depends on what kind of music you play. For me, blues, soul, R&B, neo soul, rock, it makes it a very very enjoyable experience to dig in and hit the gas pedal. I think for the size of the pedal, the weight and how it would fit on my pedal board, I'm going to save my pennies for a month and see if I can do it.
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Re: Thinking about a dedicated B3 signal chain on the NS3

Postby Hobster » 18 Feb 2018, 04:28

@Quai34 yeah, the Alesis PV. I use Delay 2 which is a stereo delay/reverb where one side is delayed by 291ms and the other by 388ms.
A small amount seems to work wonders when placed after a clonewheel/leslie sim :thumbup:
I have it velcro'ed to the underneath of my NS3C so I can easily access the mix control.
I have my Vent II & pedals (from L->R as I look - 1 x control; 1 x toggle switch for the Vent II slow/fast; 1 x piano sustain; 1 x organ swell) velcro'ed to a thin wooden board that I have under the keyboard X-stand.
The two signal paths (Main & Organ/Vent/PV) are fed into a very small passive (resistors) mixer box that I built.
The whole lot (including mains & audio to two FBT StageMaxxs - 1 each side of me) folds way into a 61-note keyboard gig bag (the FBTs have XLR parallel outs for FOH).
All I have to do at a gig is plug in the audio connectors and mains lead (loomed up) into the NS3C, attach the monitors and I'm ready to go!
I may post some pictures sometime if anyone's interested :)
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