Stage 2 synth question

[Nordolympia]

Just got the Stage 2 EX 88...I had an Electro 5...so I've been spending a lot of time on the synthesizer. Probably a newbie question...when I adjust settings on the various parameters in the Synth section, for instance, changing the release values for the amp, or changing the octave, do those new settings apply to any subsequent samples I access? That seems to be happening when I incorporate samples into new programs.

Specifically, if I make an edit to a sample's sound, is that edit (octave, release, etc) going to be applied to all subsequent samples I access?

Hope this makes sense!

Thanks!!!

Pat

[RedLeo]

Basically, yes. The settings you edit are not applied to the sample as such, they're applied to the synth section - so they will be applied to ANY sample you play through the synth section with the settings you made (or just the settings that were there before).

As the settings are NOT directly applied to the sample at all, if you (say) change the filter setting in a particular Program, the sample itself will not be changed in any way, so if you then use the same sample in another Program, it won't "carry" with it the new filter settings, it will just be the same sample it always was. The samples themselves are NEVER changed.

[pablomastodon]

what he said...plus...

those envelope and other setting which you are applying to the sample will exist only within the program which you have currently loaded. STORE that program and those settings will be retained and recalled when that program is next loaded. Leave that program location without performing STORE operation (assuming that you are not in LIVE mode) and those changes will be lost.

It is useful to learn how to "ZERO OUT" the Synth Section parameters manually so that one can listen to any loaded sample, and scroll through all of the available samples, in an unadulterated state:

1) turn SHAPE fully counterclockwise
2) turn SHAPE MOD to 12 o'clock high
3) open filter all the way (up if LP type or down if HP type)
4) turn FREQ MOD 1 fully counterclockwise
5) turn FREQ MOD 2 to 12 o'clock high

Those are the basics. Note that if a given knob is already in the prescribed positition this does not necessarily mean that it's value coincides with that knob position. Grab the knob, turn it, then turn it back.

Set envelope to taste, perhaps check to see that Mono/Legato Mode and Unison/Multi/Vibrato not engaged, but those are details...

Bless,

Pablo

[maxpiano]

It is useful to learn how to "ZERO OUT" the Synth Section parameters manually so that one can listen to any loaded sample, and scroll through all of the available samples, in an unadulterated state

You can also do it in 1 shot using the Synth's "Sound Init" function (Shift + Hold), then re-select the Sample mode for the Osc.

[maxpiano]

Another important thing is to switch off or unassign any effect assigned to the Synth.

[Nordolympia]

Wow! I really appreciate all of this excellent and very useful information...so helpful as I learn this keyboard and what it can do...just a great forum.

Thanks!!!

Pat

[muikq]

You can zero out synth as fast as shift+synth init and shift+sound init. This removes all effects too, but also splits and layers if you are doing a second voice of a program.

[muikq]

thanks to Max and Muikq for posting shortcuts for zero out process. Truly, that's the most efficient way to go, but for those struggling with the Synth Section in the first place it is perhaps helpful to learn how to do this manually in order to get a better understanding of what those knobs do.

[be lee vit]

Hello all,

This is a very helpful post! I would like to ask for a little clarification of pablomastodon's zero out process.

It is useful to learn how to "ZERO OUT" the Synth Section parameters manually so that one can listen to any loaded sample, and scroll through all of the available samples, in an unadulterated state:

1) turn SHAPE fully counterclockwise
2) turn SHAPE MOD to 12 o'clock high
3) open filter all the way (up if LP type or down if HP type)
4) turn FREQ MOD 1 fully counterclockwise
5) turn FREQ MOD 2 to 12 o'clock high

Does 3) refer to the "FREQ" knob in the filter section with the led's around it?

Thanks!
B. Lee

[koloman]

Yes.