NS3 layering problem

General Discussion of the Nord Stage (EX), Nord Stage 2 (EX), Nord Stage 3, and Nord Stage 4 Synths, FAQ, Troubleshooting etc.
Post Reply
ariel888
Posts: 12
Joined: 12 Jan 2017, 15:37
7
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Stage 3

NS3 layering problem

Post by ariel888 »

Hey guys

I have programmed I sound that has a grand piano = strings on one panel and on the second panel i have a B3 sound and on the synth section a choir sound from the sample library.
My question is - when I play this program with all sounds active - the piano sound feels like it has a slight latency....it feels like it has a hard time handling all sounfpds together.


What could that be ...

A
Nord stage 3 HA88
Nord C2D
Yamaha montage 6
Korg kronos 2 88
baekgaard
Posts: 1721
Joined: 14 Jul 2017, 11:32
6
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 6
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Stage 3
Has thanked: 703 times
Been thanked: 743 times

Re: NS3 layering problem

Post by baekgaard »

Have you upgraded to the latest OS (1.24)? If not, please do so.
NordPH
Patch Creator
Posts: 237
Joined: 01 Jun 2011, 12:09
12
Has thanked: 50 times
Been thanked: 146 times

Re: NS3 layering problem

Post by NordPH »

The B3 triggers faster and erlier than the other sounds. That could be what makes it feel like this.
Have you tried just turning of the B3 or set the triggering point to low?
These users thanked the author NordPH for the post:
baekgaard
anotherscott
Posts: 3444
Joined: 07 Jan 2011, 04:50
13
Has thanked: 38 times
Been thanked: 1079 times

Re: NS3 layering problem

Post by anotherscott »

Yes, I think the main reason you would even WANT to set organ triggering to low (which is generally less desirable for organ playing) is so that it will be triggering at the same time as other layered sounds, instead of triggering more quickly. I suspect that's the issue. The other sounds mentioned (strings, choir) don't have the sharp attack that piano and organ do. There are attack parameters you can adjust, but they should only be able to make those sounds come in further behind the piano, not ahead of it. (BTW, unless I missed something, I don't think 1.24 has any known change that would affect latency.)
baekgaard
Posts: 1721
Joined: 14 Jul 2017, 11:32
6
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Electro 6
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Stage 3
Has thanked: 703 times
Been thanked: 743 times

Re: NS3 layering problem

Post by baekgaard »

anotherscott wrote:(BTW, unless I missed something, I don't think 1.24 has any known change that would affect latency.)
Well, I kept my reply (too) short, so technically you are right -- the latency fix came in 1.22:
On the Nord Webpage / Release Notes they wrote: 1.22
...
Piano: Improved response when using both Panels and playing many notes.
So the longer version of my reply should have been: Earlier OS versions had some issues that would be most noticeable when layering several pianos and playing many notes, especially in rapid succession. This may or may not be releated to what the OP perceived. Since we don't know what kind of testing the OP is doing, I just wanted to rule out that the OP was not on 1.14 or some earlier release, and since 1.24 is the latest, I just mentioned that :-)

Other than that, I agree that having the organ set to high trigger point is also a (more) likely candidate.
Last edited by baekgaard on 09 Nov 2017, 18:32, edited 1 time in total.
These users thanked the author baekgaard for the post:
analogika
anotherscott
Posts: 3444
Joined: 07 Jan 2011, 04:50
13
Has thanked: 38 times
Been thanked: 1079 times

Re: NS3 layering problem

Post by anotherscott »

baekgaard wrote:Well, I kept my reply (too) short, so technically you are right -- the latency fix came in 1.22
Ah! :-)
ariel888
Posts: 12
Joined: 12 Jan 2017, 15:37
7
Your Nord Gear #1: Nord Stage 3
Your Nord Gear #2: Nord Stage 3

Re: NS3 layering problem

Post by ariel888 »

Thanks everybody for your responses. How ever my nord is updated to the latest os and the b3 sound does not matter cause the sound I am speaking about does not have the B3 sound on it

Any other ideas?
Nord stage 3 HA88
Nord C2D
Yamaha montage 6
Korg kronos 2 88
Post Reply