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Re: NS2 to NS3 program converter.

Postby anotherscott » 13 Feb 2018, 17:42

Mr_-G- wrote:In another news, the Montage OS 2.0 can read patches from the Motif and also from the DX7.

hector space wrote:One of the reasons I bought a Kurzweil Forte is coz Kurzweil ensure compatibility with their previous keyboards. You can load PC3 and K2600 etc into the Forte

And I read that the Roland Juno DS can load patches from the older Junos.

maxpiano wrote:
analogika wrote:You can note the synth settings for the NS2 (holding “shift” and moving a pot to see its value) and then enter those on the Nord Stage 3 sample player or wave table or classic synth.

In my experience: Often enough, the new synth will offer a method to achieve better results more easily (for example, layering two “classic” virtual analog sounds in panels A & B vs. using a single superwave in one slot on the Stage 3), and even when you transfer “1:1”, it will sound quite different, requiring a do-over.


+1, I went through that when moving from NS Classic to NS2, though I had saved all my NS patches in CTRLR (so I could browse their settings, apart from Piano Samples) there was no way to exactly reproduce 1:1 the NS synth sounds in the NS2 (and also the Organ and Rotary would sound different, even with identical settings, being one generation apart)

Yes, things will sound different. Still, it would be nice to import all your old programs as starting points, even if you end up wanting to tweak them (or even if they will never sound exactly the same). So many settings between the two are identical, it would be a great time saver to bring them over. Split/layer points, organ drawbar settings, relative volume of the piano/organ/synth sounds in a patch, morph assignments (within what they have in common, but almost every NS2 morphable parameter is also morphable in the 3), all those synth parameters that ARE in common, like oscillator waveform (most if not all NS2 waveforms are in the 3), attack/release times, LFO wave and rate, filter cutoff frequency, etc. etc. There are relatively few parameters in an NS2 that don't have an equivalent setting in the NS3, even if the sound isn't identical. It doesn't have to be perfect to be useful.

The biggest limitation might be the aspect of patches that include selecting a particular sample, where you can't even assume that the selected NS2 sample exists in the NS3. But they kind of already deal with that, in that you CAN load programs from one NS2 into another NS2, and that, too, has to deal with the fact that the second NS2 may have a different set of samples in it, so still not everything comes over or automatically works. It doesn't make the function useless.

(A converter of any functionality at all would also be helpful to those who no longer have their NS2 because they sold it or traded it in to get the NS3, and didn't think to try something like CTRLR...)
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