NS2 Pad Sound

[iaorana]

I can't exactly reproduce the same pads I had on NSEX.

Since I'm having both a NSEX and a NS2 at the moment I have to validate suspicions that the Synth sections of these two sound completely different.

I have tried to reprogram the patches Nanawel has attached and to be honest it is definitely impossible to get the exact tone color.

In "Strong strings" I used the Lp12-filter in the NS2 instead of the NSC/EX's 24pole an did some additional EQing to come somewhat close.
In "Pad double" the missing 1/3 and 2/3 kb-track makes it plainly impossible to get the same thing over the entire keyboard.

• NSC/EX Strong strings.MP3

• NS2 Strong Strings.MP3

• NSC/EX Pad double.MP3

• NS2 Pad Double.MP3

Strong Strings.ns2p

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Pad Double .ns2p

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[cleito]

Maybe the guys from Nord could release some kind of manual or something that says the way that those parameters from NSC and NSEX work and now how those from the NS2 work.
The value of each knob, what is the difference, the range, etc...
just an idea

[Frantz]

Hello fellow forumites,
In my opinion,
Most of the classic pad sounds that sound designers try to emulate, were originally done with analog synthesizers of less capabilities and features than the NS2.

One should be able to create great pads using only the synth section and virtual oscillators of the NS2.
Using samples seems like cheating somehow

If anyone wants to send me a NS2, I'll prove that it CAN be done

Cheers, Hanon

Hanon, you only need that Nanawel records a mp3 and you'll give the settings !

But Patschi has done the work already

[maxpiano]

Hi, I also experienced the same when trying to port my NSC pad patches to my new NS2 and was a bit frustrated in the beginning.

But then I recalled what I did with NSC, i.e. how many interesting "hidden" pad sound I had found just by exploring the presets and turning on the synth section in programs where it was off, particularly piano and e.piano programs.... so I did the same on NS2 and found some nice pads to start from.

As an example, on factory program A13.5 "The Duke" there is a nice pad in the synth section of slot A and.... On slot B there is the synth Lead of Billy Cobham's Stratus!! (of course, I should know it, given the program's name!)

Other solution I am going to experiment: get the samples of some famous pad sounds (or generate them using a VST) and work with them in the NS2 synth section

My conclusion: the NS2 section is just different from the NSC so while in some cases the 1:1 porting is possible, in general it is much better to try to understand it and work with it, taking advantage of the many new features it brings (for pads, for example, applying PWM by modulating the oscillator Shape of a saw or square wave using the LFO, something not possible on the NS, etc..)

PS: about the lack of 1/3 and 2/3 filter KBD tracking, a possible workaround would be to sample a waveform, e.g. A sawtooth, progressively pre-filtered across octaves; not the same as the original of course, but I think it may work...

[Nanawel]

Hi, Thanks Patschi for these patchs, I'll try them as soon as possible !

[Gustavo]

Hey there, even if sampling IS cheating I think that you can get very different colours with some of the samples, I personally find the Korg Delta samples to be very suitable for use as pad material, just the pure sample sounds very good already!

[Hanon_CTS]

Hey there, even if sampling IS cheating I think that you can get very different colours with some of the samples, I personally find the Korg Delta samples to be very suitable for use as pad material, just the pure sample sounds very good already!

Agreed!
there was a winky face by the cheating comment.
Obviously since I have shared so many samples, if using a sample is really cheating, then I'm one of the biggest cheaters.
Cheers all, thanks for sharing.

[Gustavo]

Well, I just posted several pads here: http://www.norduserforum.com/post11223.html#p11223 maybe you´ll like them

[organisch]

I also use the motif's 'analog', and my ex pad is SO much better!!

I have an ex, so I'm not sure about the settings, but basically I think I started with a sine wave, and added the extra (slightly detuned) unison osc. I then adjusted the Freq and Resonance so the high freq's were rolled off (cutoff), adjusted the attack and decay, then added chorus from the effects. I morph the mod wheel to bring up the Freq knob to decrease ( or increase, however you look at it) 'cutoff' to add a little more 'soft brassiness' to parts of the music that need louder dynamics.

Hope this helps.

The Unison Modus is - sad to say- different from the EX to the Stage2

I try to reproduce my old Pad sounds from my Stage Classic - and i recognized that it´s not possible. I use the Saw Wave for my pad - the Unison Knob was at 10. Now at the Stage 2 you have a swith with only 6 Stages for the Unison mode. The last - wich could be the "richest" is so out of tune - i can use it.

Also a big Problem is the missing of the 3 Levels for the Keybaord Tracking.

I wrote some Emails to Nord - but i think this is the new standard......

[Klangwerk]

Hi,

please see the patch-forum. There are some pad-sounds from me (The beste PAD sounds).
It should be easy to edit and change that sounds to them you like and prefer.
Or you describe what exactly you want, I try to edit that sound.

Cheers

Helmuth Schicker/Klangwerk