110v/220v voltage selector switch inside the NS

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Re: 110v/220v voltage selector switch inside the NS

Post by Hanon_CTS »

Hello DanDare,
Welcome to the forum!
The "250" that you see on the fuse is the maximum voltage interrupt class. This would say the same for all voltages below 250 VAC.
I wouldn't consider the fuse to be OK unless you had checked it with a tester of some sort. In rare cases, I've seen the fuse element separate inside the endcap and visually appear to be intact.

If your fuse truly is good, then there has be some other component failure in the power supply section, this will require professional assistance.
I wouldn't recommend replacing the fuse and trying to plug it in to the same incorrect voltage.

A proper voltage converter would be the preferred way to go, rather than opening up your instrument and making changes.

I would contact Nord technical support to see what they recommend:
http://www.clavia.se/main.asp?tm=Suppor ... al_support

Good luck,
Hanon
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Re: 110v/220v voltage selector switch inside the NS

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Hello my friends! I currently bought a Nord Piano 2 in the US! And i am waiting for it to get to my country which is Buenos Aires Argentina! The piano will be 110 and here we have 220 voltage. So I understand I can open the piano and change the voltage but I am somehow confused with the fuse. I should get a 230/250v 125mA slow bow fuses (T Type)? or 150mA? I saw in the second post that after 2000 nord products for 220 is 125 right? And whats all that about the types? I will be greatful with the answer! I want to be prepared when my piano gets here! I don't want to break something :S jajaja thanks!
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Re: 110v/220v voltage selector switch inside the NS

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You want a 'slow blow' fuse, because the Nord might use more than 125 mA for a very short period when you turn it on (in-rush current for the capacitors in the PSU). If you have a regular fuse (or even worse, a 'fast acting' fuse) the fuse might break when you turn it on. It might break immediately, but it might also work 20x and then break. It doesn't damage your Nord, but it is just darn inconvenient.

I would really try to find a 125 mA one instead of 150 mA; that one will work, but it might be a bit safer to get the 125 mA one.
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Re: 110v/220v voltage selector switch inside the NS

Post by pfrocha »

I have the opposite problem: 220v keyboard to be used in a 110v country. The fuse in my keyboard is 250v 125mA. Do I have to replace it?
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Re: 110v/220v voltage selector switch inside the NS

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pfrocha wrote:I have the opposite problem: 220v keyboard to be used in a 110v country. The fuse in my keyboard is 250v 125mA. Do I have to replace it?
You do. Firstly because of potential safety issues (the fuse is there to protect both you and your equipment), secondly because there's a good chance it will blow pretty quickly if you don't. :lol:
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Re: 110v/220v voltage selector switch inside the NS

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I checked a friend's 100v NS2 and discovered that (i) his fuse is 300mA (and not 250mA), and most importantly, (ii) his fuse is bigger than the 220v's, held by a fuse holder which is also bigger.

Does that mean I also need a new fuse holder? Where can I get it? Or does the 300mA fuse also come in the smaller size?

Thanks!
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Re: 110v/220v voltage selector switch inside the NS

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Fuse size in NE3 and several other boards is 20 x 5 mm, size in NC2 and NS2 seems to be 32 x 6 mm.
Formats are common and I think you can find right one without troubles.

Fuse is the only part to be replaced, required types are:
* 20x5 mm / 32x6 mm [depends of keyboard model];
* 125..150 mA [220V] / 250..300 mA for [110V];
* slow blow (T) type.
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Re: 110v/220v voltage selector switch inside the NS

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250 mA might've been hard to get for the person that replaced that fuse and 300 is close enough (same with 125 and 150). Like odd meter says, 20x5 and 32x6 are very standard fuse sizes and you should be able to get a 250 (or 300) mA one of either size without too much trouble, either online or from some store that sells electronics parts. A new fuse should be very cheap (like 0.5-2 dollars for a single one). It can either be a small glass tube with metal endcaps (you can see the filament inside it, but don't rely on this for checking if the fuse is still okay), or ceramic tube with small metal endcaps.
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Re: 110v/220v voltage selector switch inside the NS

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ndiiorio wrote:Hello my friends! I currently bought a Nord Piano 2 in the US! And i am waiting for it to get to my country which is Buenos Aires Argentina! The piano will be 110 and here we have 220 voltage. So I understand I can open the piano and change the voltage but I am somehow confused with the fuse. I should get a 230/250v 125mA slow bow fuses (T Type)? or 150mA? I saw in the second post that after 2000 nord products for 220 is 125 right? And whats all that about the types? I will be greatful with the answer! I want to be prepared when my piano gets here! I don't want to break something :S jajaja thanks!
hola ndiorio. yo tambien compre un NS2 en Usa y me acaba de llegar. como te fue con el cambio de voltage ? cambiaste el fusil ?
gracias
como estuve con el cambio de tensió

Edit: Hello ndiorio. I also bought a NS2 in the USA and it just arrived. How did changing the voltage go? Did you replace the fuse? thanks
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Re: 110v/220v voltage selector switch inside the NS

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DanDare wrote:The same happened to me, I bought my NS2 in US, and now I plugged in my country to 220v and it doesn't turn on anymore. The fuse looks ok, and it says 250 so I think it should be working. And it doesn't look damaged. Anyone know what can I do?? Can it be just opening it??
I'm not sure I understand. If you haven't opened it yet, how can you know the fuse is ok ?

I would double-check the fuse anyway, since that's the most likely part to blow. Otherwise, maybe your whole power supply board is fried, but if Clavia did their job well, it should only be the fuse.
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