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Dear all,

I work in a school and we have recently purchased a Stage 2 and to say were impressed is an understatement.. However ! We use the Organ in our chapel services and from the default patches I'm struggling to find a full range church organ "sounding" patch.

Most of the patches either sound like were at a baseball game or at the fair... Does anyone have or can point me to a genuine sounding church organ patch...

Many thanks in advance!

Matt

Two questions:

1. are you referring to the included programs that use the Organ section of the instrument, or the organs that are included in the samples within the Synth section? There are a few impressive pipe organ samples in the Synth section, but they're bombastic all-stops type sounds.
2. what types of organ are you trying to emulate? if you're going for a pipe organ with the ability to control stops or are you looking for more Gospel sounding electromechanical organ sounds? Fully-articulated pipe organ is going to be difficult, but not impossible, to accomplish on this since you'll need to utilize the sample functionality and probably delve into the world of making samples. However, the latter will work perfectly if what you want to do is emulate a classic B-3 Gospel sound.

Hi Bods...

thanks for your in depth reply. I'm sort of referreing to both, basically we p[urchased the keyboard for its ability to act as both an organ (emuklating a pipe organ) and as a stage piano. We have been using some of the built in organ sounds but theyre just ont quite close enough to a pipe organ and i was wondring if anyone has created some organ programmes?

I downloaded the samples from the link below but am pretty new to the stage 2 and havent quite worked out how to create programmes from samples yet and kid of figured someone else would have done so ?

post7223.html?hilit=church organ#p7223

Is it fairly straight forward to creat programmes from samples as they manual is a little cryptic...

Many thanks

Matt aka Lutonbod

It's very simple to make programs with samples in them - what you want to do is turn off the organ and piano sections and enable just the synth section. Then hold the shift key and tap "Sound Init" in the synth section. Then, tap the oscillator selection button until the arrow is lit next to SAMP. Then, use the knob in the oscillator section to find the sample you want to play. That's it. Then, you can save the program by tapping the red save button twice (assuming memory protection is turned off), or if you don't want to overwrite the spot you're in, hit shift-save, potentially change the name, then save again to choose a place to put it (and therefore overwrite the program you choose) and hit save again. Alternately you can use one of the live spots to save it dynamically, no save buttons needed.

This is all a bit from memory, so hopefully it doesn't vary much, if at all, from reality. So to clarify what the Stage 2 does, it is really built to model the Hammond B-3 (and other transistor organs, but they're not what you're after) rather than a pipe organ. The Hammond, of course, was originally built to emulate a pipe organ, but anyone who has played a pipe organ will know that's not really what they accomplished. The Hammond has its own sound that is a cornerstone of jazz, rock and blues, and to a certain extent worship, but realistically the Hammond in a worship context is there to sound like the Hammonds of yesterday sounded where they were used to take the place of pipe organs. I can't speak to Hammond in this context because I have virtually no experience with it, but if you search youtube for videos of people playing Hammond in a gospel context it may become a bit more clear what I'm talking about.

The only board I know of that takes a stab at proper pipe organ is the C1/C2/C2D, which have a pipe organ model, but I'm not sure even how much closer this will get you to what you're looking for.

I really love my Nord, but there is one thing they missed by a mile on, and that's the pipe organ sounds. I have the Electro 5D which has a dedicated pipe organ setting for the drawbars, but comparing it to a real pipe organ is like comparing Tang to orange juice. It's like a gross parody that only bears a faint stereotyped resemblance to the real thing.

The samples available also don't sound very good to my ears, and anyway being samples they aren't very flexible.

I was however very surprised to discover how strikingly realistic the modeled pipe organ is on the Hammond SK-1. I would not have thought it was possible to model so realistically (because I've never heard it done so accurately anywhere else), but that thing is fully modeled, meaning you can mix and match via the drawbars just like pulling stops on a real organ. And the sound... I do a double-take every time!

Nord does such a great job with so many other sounds, for example Nord's harpsichords are clearly better than their Hammond counterparts, and Nord's EPs (Rhodes, Wurli) are unsurpassed to my ears. But the pipe organ just plain stinks on my Electro 5D, which I assume is similar to the Stage (I have not tried anything in the C2 line, so can't comment there). I very much hope Nord will study the Hammond modeling, learn from it, and distribute a software patch one day!

Hi

"The Electro 5 organ section features a brand new principal pipe organ model."

It's clear on product descriptions, in the ne5 we don't get the C2D organs like these :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE6GLTA1yo0

nor this :

https://youtu.be/XJt55ir7rjE?t=127

unfortunately !

+1 very disapointed by the NE5 pipe organ.
I did not buy it especially for that sound, but was really surprised, the wrong way.
This video helped me to get something better, looking at the settings.
I also tried to mix the organ with chuchOrgan5 sample.



I share your hopes.
F.

I liked this one a lot: post51151.html?hilit=burea#p51151
check it out

Yess ! Mr-G 's grandOrgue using Lars Palo samples, great one Thank you azwel.

nord-user-samples-nsmp-samples-f14/burea-church-organ-t7988.html

oh..this thread is 4 years old lol

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